To think this woman should not be put in prison?

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Bizarre and very unfair Link

She clearly pushes her in the footage as she’s halfway cycled past her then falls. The woman who pushed her also told the police she’d given her a ‘light shove’. So yes, if you ‘lightly shove’ somebody and they as a result fall under a car and die, you 100% deserve to go to prison.

Considering that a double rapist got 8 years a couple of days ago, 3 years seems excessive to me too. She caused someone's death so should
be punished even though it wasn't intentional

And it's definitely not a "Can't be arrested" card. She didn't even have the decency to wait around for the emergency services even though she was at the very least, a witness. Does her having CP or being visually impaired excuse that?

Yet the pedestrian ADMITTED making contact with the cyclist..

I can see why there is some controversy. But I am going to trust the judge and jury on this one.

I however suspect there will be an appeal and a reduction in sentence at the very least.

Could a partially sighted person with cp be expected to know how to safely and quickly react to an oncoming bike to keep herself and the cyclist safe?

So many legal experts around today chatting shit.

l, the pedestrian said she did
"She said she "may have unintentionally put" out her hand to protect herself. Ms Grey believed she had made light contact with Mrs Ward."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-64747184

Welcome to mumsnet. Where you can be a legal expert one day, an infectious diseases expert the next day and a detective after that!

We do not know whether it was a shared use path or cycle path.

We do know that the path was 2.4m wide at that spot, easily wide enough for both.

We do know that the aggressor made physical contact, as she admitted as much.

We do know that, having caused the collision, the aggressor didn’t even bother to wait for the emergency services and shopping instead.

If the aggressor had been a young man, I doubt anyone would be defending him.

It was not an accident.
She didn't accidentally yell at her to what was it ? Get off the fucking pavement?

She didn't accidentally wave her hands around right in front of the cyclist.

And she didn't accidentally leave the woman dead or dying in the road and go do her grocery shopping.

She didn't intend for the cyclist to die but her actions were not accidental and they did result in the cyclist's death.

Talking about infectious diseases, this incident happening October 2020 when people were crossing roads to avoid passing within 2m of other people, and joggers and cyclists were frequently shouted at for passing too close.

I mean the fact is that her actions directly caused someones death. Whilst more than sure that wasn't the intention (hence the charge) surely this isn't the type of thing people should be able to not have any repercussions for, that would be a scary precedent to set. I suspect showing zero remorse and not stopping at the scene were factors considered by the judge too.

Had the cyclist not been on the pavement she/he would still be alive, riding on the pavement precipitated this but being pro-cyclist is the current default setting, wherever they are.

Have you actually watched the video? She deliberately pushes the cyclist into the road. If you push people into roads when there is oncoming traffic, then yes, the law should hold you accountable.

While accepting that the jury has more information than us, I think it's reasonable to ask if the woman being partially sighted means that it's less likely that she could judge an arm wave such as to deliberately hit a cyclist, though there seems to be no clear answer as to if contact was made, in which case disability would have a bearing on what happened.

Not being able to see or move quickly might make someone more anxious which in turn could make someone react angrily.

As for leaving the scene, I knew someone who saw their girlfriend get run over, she was severely injured and was taken to hospital by ambulance, and he then came into work. Clearly in shock, he told a colleague what had happened and got sent home. Sometimes (not saying in this case, just generally) you just follow your routine automatically.

But as I said, the jury will know more than us.

I imagine the woman with CO and partial blindness has had a lifetime of near misses or harm caused by cyclists on pavements, if so I can understand her reaction, not that it was right.
I feel awful for saying this but I think the cyclist is mostly responsible for her own fate, she shouldn't have been still riding, she should have stopped and gotten of her bike. I find her actions on the pavement quite entitled, not that she deserved to die.
I feel mostly sorry for the driver, an impossible position to be in.
I imagine the sentence will be appealed and reduced, I can't say I feel outraged at the possibility.

I hate when cyclists go on the pavement too. It is dangerous to pedestrians.

When they’re approaching each other she’s just flapping her hands, but then right as the cyclist is next to her she raises her left arm, moves her whole upper body toward the cyclist, stops walking, transfers her weight onto her left foot for slightly longer than if she’d just been taking another step forward at the same pace she’d been walking and you see the back of her left arm behind the cyclist’s back as she starts falling into the road.

I don’t agree with this woman’s behaviour before or after the incident and it’s horrific that the cyclist died as a result of this.

However, if you’re a cyclist, and you could’ve slowed down, got off, stopped then maybe that’s what should’ve happened. Also, surely if you’re an older person cycling then presumably you’d take more care if you’re on a main road.

I’ve had cyclists come fast at speed round a bend when I’m crossing a side road and almost missing colliding with me, a lot don’t stop at pedestrian crossings or traffic lights. Not all but some.

The woman should absolutely be in prison. So depressing to see the barely disguised loathing in this thread towards cyclists. If the police etc were unsure about the status of this path, then it seems highly likely that the cyclist thought she was okay to be on there, and was so startled by the other woman's aggression that she panicked and swerved into the road. The fact that they aggressor walked off to do her shopping is sickening. How cold-blooded would have to be to do that?!

It’s a shared cycle / pedestrian path. Cyclists are allowed to use it to cycle on. At whatever speed they like. The council provides cycle paths in the expectation that they will be used by cyclists. Why the hell ought a cyclist using a shared path for its purpose have to change their actions because a pedestrian cannot keep to one side of the (2.4m wide!!!) path???

I know that you can't 100% tell by looking at someone, but I'm pretty sure she also had psychological/mental health issues too. Often courts don't consider those issues sufficiently.

People convicted of manslaughter have so many varying crimes though.

Punching someone when drunk in the street.
Stabbing someone over drugs.
Hit and run and dragging their body half a mile.
Setting fire to a house.
Killing a partner in violent rage.
Gesturing at a cyclist cycling towards you on a pavement.

As for leaving the scene, I knew someone who saw their girlfriend get run over, she was severely injured and was taken to hospital by ambulance, and he then came into work. Clearly in shock, he told a colleague what had happened and got sent home. Sometimes (not saying in this case, just generally) you just follow your routine automatically.

I can understand someone being in shock at first, I certainly was when a woman was hit by the bus I was a passenger on, but not to the extent of doing a full shop. It seems that she had expressed no remorse until today so I suspect that it's down to callousness rather than just shock.

And again that pavement may have been a shared use path and it was 2.4m wide.