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AIBU?

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To think that men shouldn't be named as women in newspapers if they have committed sexual offences?

385 replies

WandaWomblesaurus73 · 02/01/2022 14:59

Just that really - I'm seeing more and more newspaper reports where women are being implicated in weird sexual crimes and the you see the picture and it's obviously a man.

Now I totally get that if someone is transitioning it's polite to call them by their preferred name etc - but AIBU to think that some of these criminals are just taking the piss?

Here are some recent examples - and there are loads more.

www.northwichguardian.co.uk/news/19802592.northwich-woman-jailed-cocaine-fuelled-sex-dog/

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10339797/amp/Thumb-sucking-paedophile-claims-identify-five-year-old-girl-comes-court-dressed-ELF.html

How can anyone think this is ok? And will these "women" end up in women's prisons out of politeness?

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vinoandbrie · 02/01/2022 15:00

YANBU. At all. #notourcrimes

Theunamedcat · 02/01/2022 15:01

Yanbu but be prepared to be called unkind

CouncilHousedAndViolentBaby · 02/01/2022 15:02

YANBU it's absolutely awful

zen1 · 02/01/2022 15:03

YANBU in the slightest.

WandaWomblesaurus73 · 02/01/2022 15:05

@Theunamedcat

Yanbu but be prepared to be called unkind
I know right? But there's a limit to women being expected to be kind to sexual predators and rapists. At what point do we get to say no? Do women in prison get a choice about who they share a cell with and God help any of the women sharing cells with these people! How is it not state sanctioned rape?
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Theunamedcat · 02/01/2022 15:42

It has happened women have been raped and they have been told it didn't happen

So it is state sanctioned rape

LethargicActress · 02/01/2022 15:44

Yanbu.

TheWeeDonkey · 02/01/2022 15:45

YANBU

BrightYellowDaffodil · 02/01/2022 15:46

YANBU.

These crimes were not committed by women, they were committed by men claiming to be women. If nothing else, it skews the crime statistics and makes it look like women commit crimes like rape.

#notourcrimes

TheGreatATuin · 02/01/2022 15:49

Yanbu. But as has been said, someone's going to pop up soon to tell you to be kind.
Of course, locking women up with sex offenders isn't very kind to those women but somehow that doesn't seem to count.

CurbsideProphet · 02/01/2022 15:52

Obviously YANBU.
Ready for new posters to pop up telling us it's a complete coincidence that rapists have suddenly decided that they are in fact women and should be referred to as such.

Nathlash · 02/01/2022 15:54

Yanbu, but you knew that. But it's one of the consequences of the pernicious legal fiction that is self-ID, in which actual women are expected to connive.

Theunamedcat · 02/01/2022 15:55

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9819631/I-sexually-assaulted-womens-prison-fellow-inmate-male-genitalia.html

Yes I know its the daily fail but I dont have time to trawl for a more reputable source

slashlover · 02/01/2022 15:57

OP you've been here long enough to know what MNs answer is going to be? Similar to the drag thread yesterday where the answer was obvious from the first reply.

YouCantTourniquetTheTaint · 02/01/2022 15:58

YADNBU #NotOurCrimes

meteoric · 02/01/2022 15:59

Yanbu. It's a really sick move on their part, and should warrant more jail time too IMO.

HeronLanyon · 02/01/2022 15:59

YANBU. I am beyond furious about this. At the criminal bar and god knows what I’ll do if instructed in such a case. Well I do - I’d have to leave the bar as we can’t refuse cases other than v small set of circs (rightly).

GrandmasCat · 02/01/2022 16:00

I wonder it is becoming more common to refer to women as cys woman or woman with a vagina but we cannot say refer to trans people as trans people. Doesn’t seem fair…

itsgettingweird · 02/01/2022 16:01

It's going too far now.

Georgeskitchen · 02/01/2022 16:01

YNBU They are manipulating the authorities and laughing in their victims faces
Needs to stop immediately

furbabymama87 · 02/01/2022 16:01

Yanbu. I agree.

simmonsgirl · 02/01/2022 16:02

YANBU they are men

Legoninjago1 · 02/01/2022 16:04

Yanbu. It's utterly ludicrous, offensive, emperors new clothes bullshit.

MarshmallowFondant · 02/01/2022 16:04

Disagree.

Naming these people as women, and referring to them as "she" or "her", along with a picture of the perpetrator, will drive it home to people how the whole idea of self-identification is fundamentally flawed and puts women at serious risk.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 02/01/2022 16:04

should warrant more jail time too IMO

You mean the sort of jail time where they’ll claim to be a woman for an easier life/better access to victims, then revert back to their actual sex when they get out?

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/03d57d22-6b4c-11ec-bb37-1b2eed73c283?shareToken=b5d40b683a6857af319ab4e2d2968b8e

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