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to say not in my name

225 replies

yetanothertranswoman · 01/04/2018 10:15

When transactivists threaten a woman organising a clothes swap on Facebook and get the venue to stop the event just because they don't like the views of the organiser.

Not in my name

When transactivists threaten women on twitter and tell them to 'suck my lady penis'.

Not in my name

When transactivists threaten women with hate laws and call in the police because they express their opinions.

Not in my name

When transactivists demand access to single sex spaces despite not bothering with thinking about how the women might feel.

Not in my name

When transactivists shut down venues and silence people who have their own concerns over what is going on.

Not in my name.

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PositivelyPERF · 02/04/2018 17:50

Misandrist? No. Just don’t like arseholes that come onto a thread to try to derail it. MRAs/TRAs are bullying pieces of shite and you write in the same style. Did you just come on here to attack because you have nothing constructive to add to the thread? Are you just trying to bully decent trans people the way scum are trying to bully women. Don’t worry, we see you.

majorPentatonic · 02/04/2018 17:54

And I see you too, PERF?

Yeah. I see you.

What do you mean by "derail". I assume anything other than agree with the OP.

So, any activist (male rights or trans rights) is bullying shite and scum?

I see you.

I see you and your agression and insults and lack of intelligence and I see your inability to say anything other than personal attacks.

I see you.

We see you.

Um ... they see you.

Yeah, you're seen!

PositivelyPERF · 02/04/2018 17:57

There’s always one. You’d think I’d know better than to respond by now. 🙄

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yetanothertranswoman · 02/04/2018 17:59

majorpentatonic

Do you think it's wrong that an MP is reported by trans activists because he dared to host a meeting in Parliament with women who are concerned about self ID?

Do you think women should be able to talk about their concerns over leglisation and the implications without being silenced?

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Schlimbesserung · 02/04/2018 17:59

Congratulations on your perfect vision, majorP. Feel better now?
For whatever it's worth, I hadn't assumed you were a man, just that you are an arse.

majorPentatonic · 02/04/2018 18:00

See, I knew I'd seen you. Now I see you. I've seen you. I will have seen you. You will have been seen. You had been seen. You were seen. We saw you. I saw you. Seen you were.

Thanks for the image.

Weebo · 02/04/2018 18:02

Hey, Major - Are you not bored of the trite repetition in your posts?

ReluctantCamper · 02/04/2018 18:02

The problem is majorPentatonic, you haven't actually outlined what your problem is other than some arcane details over why a clothes swap was cancelled.

For an English teacher you're showing a remarkable lack of clarity in your writing.

I think if you're going to write something as angry as your initial post it's quite reasonable that some other people might want to understand why you feel that way.

majorPentatonic · 02/04/2018 18:09

@yetanothertranswoman

Do you think it's wrong that an MP is reported by trans activists because he dared to host a meeting in Parliament with women who are concerned about self ID?

No idea who they were reported to but yes, I think it's wrong. But I do like it when MPs show their true colours. Jacob R-M hates the poor. Corbyn hates the Jews. I know who I don't want in power. Better an honest wanker than a dishonest one.

Do you think women should be able to talk about their concerns over leglisation and the implications without being silenced?

Most people should be able to talk about most things so yes. I wish all the anti trans posts weren't on AIBU though. It should be about MiLs and parking.

I can't see what this has to do with your post though.

In the 'not in my name' stuff you talk about.

  1. Didn't happen
  1. childish and boring. "suck my lady penis" is on a par with 'your Ma' insults.
  1. up to the police to interpret the law. I don't know what you're referring to.
  1. not more complaining about Topshop?
  1. No idea what you're talking about.
yetanothertranswoman · 02/04/2018 18:11

I wish all the anti trans posts weren't on AIBU though. It should be about MiLs and parking

Can you explain how a transwoman can post an anti-trans post?

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yetanothertranswoman · 02/04/2018 18:13

No idea what you're talking about

I don't know what you're referring to

suck my lady penis" is on a par with 'your Ma' insults

Maybe you should open your eyes?

The trans activists who do this stuff are trying to silence women.

You either think it's ok for women to be silenced or you don't.

I don't. And I say that as a transwoman.

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majorPentatonic · 02/04/2018 18:13

"Can you explain how a transwoman can post an anti-trans post?"

Internalised- terfery.

Surely you've heard of internalised misogyny and internalised racism? The same 'theories' apply.

iheartmichellemallon · 02/04/2018 18:15

Well done Op & thank you.

majorPentatonic · 02/04/2018 18:15

"You either think it's ok for women to be silenced or you don't."

Depends on the woman. I wish some would shut up.

Just before I'm accused of sexism though, there are plenty of men who I would love to be silenced too.

yetanothertranswoman · 02/04/2018 18:16

Surely you've heard of internalised misogyny and internalised racism? The same 'theories' apply

Or maybe I have listened to all the concerns on here and been able to put myself in other people's shoes?

A valuable skill.

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Hotdoggity · 02/04/2018 18:16

You seem very sure of our own intelligence. You’re an English teacher, not Mikhail Bakhtin. Calm down.

PositivelyPERF · 02/04/2018 18:16

yetanothertranswoman don’t waste your breath on it.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/04/2018 18:18

Surely you've heard of internalised misogyny

Sometimes we get to see it in action, you know.

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 02/04/2018 18:18

suck my lady penis" is on a par with 'your Ma' insults.

Is it really?
Because I call bullshit. I think having someone tell you to suck their “lady dick” or “choke on my cock, TERF” is violent as fuck.

Certainly a lot more violent than “trans woman are biologically men” which brings out cries of “this is literal violence”.

ReluctantCamper · 02/04/2018 18:19

5. No idea what you're talking about.

let me help you out there majorPentatonic. During the WPUK meeting at Edinburgh transactivist protesters shouted while a woman was trying to talk about her experience of being sexually assaulted. Afterwards the venue was showered with calls from TRAs. They said they'd never experienced anything like it.

The WNTT meeting had their booking at Millwall pulled due to pressure from TRAs.

majorPentatonic · 02/04/2018 18:22

@yetanothertranswoman

"been able to put myself in other people's shoes"

Yes. I gathered that from your username.

@Hotdoggity

Yes. Very. Top 1.5 of the population at a rough estimate.

@PERF

"don’t waste your breath on it."

Telling.

Quite nasty, aren't you.

TERFragetteCity · 02/04/2018 18:23

I think having someone tell you to suck their “lady dick” or “choke on my cock, TERF” is violent as fuck.

Like these?

I got told today that all these TERF hate tweets were made up, by TERFs themselves. Utterly deluded.

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Weebo · 02/04/2018 18:23

Reads more like a huffy teenagers attempt at being clever than a teacher.

Either way here's yer fishy.

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PencilsInSpace · 02/04/2018 18:23

I wonder why a transactivist would be so very cross at the notion of decent normal trans people getting together and saying 'fuck this, this is bullshit. Not in our name' Hmm

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 02/04/2018 18:25

Exactly like those @TERFragetteCity
How no one has been arrested for those tweets is beyond me. Absolutely vile threats against women.

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