to say not in my name

[yetanothertranswoman]

When transactivists threaten a woman organising a clothes swap on Facebook and get the venue to stop the event just because they don't like the views of the organiser.

Not in my name

When transactivists threaten women on twitter and tell them to 'suck my lady penis'.

Not in my name

When transactivists threaten women with hate laws and call in the police because they express their opinions.

Not in my name

When transactivists demand access to single sex spaces despite not bothering with thinking about how the women might feel.

Not in my name

When transactivists shut down venues and silence people who have their own concerns over what is going on.

Not in my name.

"Can you explain how a transwoman can post an anti-trans post

Can you point to one thing in my post that is anti-trans?

OP, you deserve a lot of respect for this thread. Cannot be easy.

Quite nasty, aren't you.

Don’t be silly. You think that’s nasty? I’m abiding by MNHQ guild lines or I’d really tell you what I think of you. But I wouldn’t want to be abused of committing ‘literal violence’.

"Can you explain how a transwoman can post an anti-trans post

Can you point to one thing in my post that is anti-trans?

Are you answering your own question with a question?

We're really through the looking glass now!

Sorry yetanothertranswoman, I’m going to stop giving it oxygen.

Keep in mind that the feminists are supportive of you and the other real trans people and appreciate you giving your support to this important issue. Don’t let the bastards get you down.

Are you answering your own question with a question

So you can't find anything that is anti-trans in my OP?

Thought not

Why are you so obsessed with grammar? You’re like a parody of a teacher. Most people secure in their use of written language aren’t petty enough to give a crap how anyone else writes. You’re seriously undermining your own credibility by focusing your criticism on bloody syntax.

Are you answering your own question with a question?

Are you avoiding answering the OP's question?

Accused not *abused.

major is clearly a goady fucker. Just ignore her.

Don’t let the bastards get you down

Nolite te Bastardes Carborundorum

As they say

Perhaps she identifies as a teacher so thinks she must do teachery things like correct grammar and tell everyone how smart she is?

I love it, OP. 😁

Transactivists are understandably rattled at the idea of ordinary trans people speaking up. If enough of you did so they would no longer be in control of the narrative.

So keep doing it

I'm a little bit sad about the aggression directed towards majorPentatonic. Due to her rather opaque writing style I'm still not entirely clear what her issue is (I was going to say 'what axe she has to grind', but any sort of rhetorical device seems to make her crosser, thus further obscuring understanding).

However I think if someone set up the 'we support ReluctantCamper' club, and stared telling people who loved camping to perform fellatio on them, I'd be pretty embarrassed at minimum.

yetanother identifies as not backing down! More power to her elbow!

so, I guess I'm fully behind 'not in my name'

Excellent post as always yetanothertranswoman

I rather like the peaceful anonymity, freedom to walk down the street without abuse, the lack of transphobic violence, my friendly neighbours and the regular employment that I have.

^^ As Jenny stated, this is what we all want.

JennySelf & DN4GeekinDerby

I do think it's important that you (collective you) start getting organised for a couple of reasons.

The first is strength in numbers, even if there are not many of you. It can give you courage to be able to say 'we ...' sometimes and not be a lone 'I ...' Acting as a group also provides more ways to be effective even if you personally need to stay anonymous. You need some brave spokespeople, but they will be more effective with back-end support on research and communications and allow the spokespeople to say 'we are an organisation with xxx trans members'.

The second is I think it's important to have a trans voice that's distinct from what feminists are doing. This will give you more credibility. TRAs won't be able to say 'oh look the terfs have wheeled out a tame truscum' as happens now. It will provide a more straightforward message to the general public - 'this is a trans position' rather than 'some trans people agree with feminists about this' - if that makes sense. It would also give both groups a bit more space to set our own agendas without feeling compromised, uncomfortable or tone-policed.

This is not at all to say we can't work together. We absolutely can and should continue to do that. It just allows us space to have some differences and to work from a women's perspective or a trans perspective without trying to shoehorn all our concerns into the same box.

I have no doubt that there are things which could be changed to improve the lives of ordinary trans people without shitting on women and children. I don't know what those things are because I am not trans. They are probably not things that could be fought for under a feminist banner (we have enough on our plate aside from anything else) but I'd be happy to add my support to a trans people's campaign for those things.

Completely agree Pencils.

Most sensible trans post I have read. Thank you OP.

Agree with Pencils. It shouldn't be necessary for transpeople to have to rebut a campaign which is being carried out supposedly for their benefit, but as it's actually to their detriment they really don't have a choice.

what Pencils said
I'm sure there is stuff that transexuals need, want or are concerned about that I haven't got the first idea of and they should be able to collectively organise for that (notwithstanding wanting a quiet life)
Then we could come together on occassion and say, even though we are quite distinct groups, with very different experiences, we share these concerns and propose these solutions (or whatever)

Also what Pencils said.