to say not in my name

[yetanothertranswoman]

When transactivists threaten a woman organising a clothes swap on Facebook and get the venue to stop the event just because they don't like the views of the organiser.

Not in my name

When transactivists threaten women on twitter and tell them to 'suck my lady penis'.

Not in my name

When transactivists threaten women with hate laws and call in the police because they express their opinions.

Not in my name

When transactivists demand access to single sex spaces despite not bothering with thinking about how the women might feel.

Not in my name

When transactivists shut down venues and silence people who have their own concerns over what is going on.

Not in my name.

And here is a link to the ever important petition petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214118

Amazing that OP is assumed not to be a trans women because she’s not echoing the views of a minority of TRAs. Just goes to show how loud some voices have been in centring their own experience rendering other transpeople so vulnerable. I honestly feel like it’s equally an attack on the transcommunity as much as on women.

yetanothertranswoman Thank you for speaking out. I have a family member who feels the same way you do. I think the majority of trans people actually do feel the same, it's just that there is a large section of very vocal activists that like to make themselves heard and shout down anyone who disagrees with them.

I honestly feel like it’s equally an attack on the transcommunity as much as on women.

Definitely. The extreme trans activist movement has little concern about the rights or concerns of transwomen like OP.

The more you look into the TRA movement, the more it becomes clear it is a men's rights movement that is set upon eroding rights for women. I've also seen it referred to as a Men's Sexual Rights movement - which is disturbingly accurate.

Thanks OP for being strong enough to speak out and doing it on AIBU! "More balls than Millwall"

Can i ask - have you been to any of the public meetings? Like WPUK or WeNeedToTalk? Theres always quite a few trans women there and it really helps to focus peoples minds on what it is we're trying to achieve: ie not excluding trans but protecting womens spaces. Youd be so very welcome at any of the talks and it might make you feel more confident about speaking out. Sorry if this sounds patronising, I dont mean to be.

I watched one of the videos of 'We need to talk' and they made me feel very uncomfortable. I know it was talking about trans activists but it did seem very generalising.

Well said, yetanothertranswoman.

Not In My Name either.

Another transwoman who is sick of the TRA's and is properly frightened by them. I don't understand them and I don't see how they think threats of violence/actual violence will help matters.

Maybe the only way to counter this is for every transwoman who opposes the shouty TRA's to stand up, be loud and be visible...?

Yet; I'd much prefer to not stand up, personally.

I rather like the peaceful anonymity, freedom to walk down the street without abuse, the lack of transphobic violence, my friendly neighbours and the regular employment that I have. All of which may/will vanish overnight; just as it did when I transitioned 25 years ago.

So there's every smart reason for me to stay invisible - but I hate the way this narrative is going and I can see massive problems and violations for all women, should Self ID become law.

But my silence and anonymity is too high a price to pay; and the TRA's will try and force through all manner of nonsense. I rather doubt they'll be stopping at a Self ID Bill...

So I've already contacted my MP, and had a meeting. He's asked me to put it all in writing, which I have done. But writing letters to MP's is small potatoes and does not influence mass media so much.

The worrying thing is that (I assume) that there are far more angry, testosterone fueled TRA's than there are calmer, transitioned transwomen...so I'm assuming that I (and others like me) are massively outnumbered before we even speak up.

I just don't know what to do; but something clearly needs doing...

Good luck to you and carry on speaking out for people who share your views.

Excellent post, JennySelf, and thank you.

I've seen a couple of MNetters post things like "I've gone full-TERF now" - so it's very easy to see how the extreme, vocal TRAs are damaging transwomen and transmen who just want to quietly live their lives.

Yet have a look at this clip of Kristina Harrison at a WPUK meeting

Of course you would Jennyself because you’ve spent so long feeling fearful and oppressed. The loudest voices are usually the ones that are accustomed to being heard. There’s a level of unchecked entitlement in the TRA voices that ironically stems from the experience of being male, so for those trans women that sincerely never identified with being male, that’s not the case.

Yet and Jenny and definitely

Thank you OP and JennySelf.

Well said.

I'm with all the trans women who have spoken on this thread. You get my absolute support on this.

I hear you.

I support you.

Thanks xx

I’m sorry you feel frightened by the people who claim to represent you up. That’s not fair.

I watched one of the videos of 'We need to talk' and they made me feel very uncomfortable. I know it was talking about trans activists but it did seem very generalising

That's another of the reasons we really need to hear from transwomen like you and Jenny. Thank you.

Another woman offering solidarity to the trans women posting here. I have no idea how to resolve this so that we can return to the previous state where we all shared places with no fuss and mutual respect. We need to continue to respectfully and consistently challenge the silencing, the violence and the misogyny and work towards a solution.

Thank you OP, I completely support you, and JennySelf.

Stay safe.

Thank you for speaking out Yet and Jenny. This is an attack on both trans people and women and we can stand together in opposition to the madness. We have different needs but we can agree that the proposals and the current nastiness is not in our names and poses a very real threat to us all.

The TRAs don't want us talking and agreeing though, it shatters their propaganda.

Can I ask what it was that made you uncomfortable about We Need To Talk, yet?

I know that the tone can be quite irreverent (or it was at the HoC meeting that I attended), and it must be hard to be faced with a mass of gender critical opinion that quite often takes no prisoners. I wonder if it might help you to understand that just being in that room, being "allowed" to hold the opinions that we hold, and express them in a supportive, women only atmosphere is extremely heady and intoxicating. And in such an atmosphere, it feels more important that women feel their voices are being heard, than that we are being protective of trans people's feelings.

It really isn't aimed at people like you - we have a problem in common, which is that TRAs are making our lives difficult, and I'm happy to call you an ally as we organise to sort that issue out

I am highly amused at the ploppers coming on to call a trans person anti trans, though they don't stick around on this thread any more than they do on any of the others they slate but don't read!

Well done for being brave enough to stand up and be counted, JennySelf. Thank you for helping protect all of us. 🌹

Thank you, OP. You are brave.

Thank you, OP and JennySelf. Please keep speaking up. Your voices matter.

OP, your voice and others like yours are the ones people need to hear. People need to know that not all transgendered individuals have the agenda that seems to be pushed at the moment.

I am sorry you are in this situation, you are as much a victim of the pro trans agenda as the anti trans agenda.

I hope in real life you encounter people who take you at the face value and respect you for who you are. X