David Cameron has finally admitted that "integration is not working"

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AIBU to think that he should have cottoned on about 10 years ago, not now when it is so glaringly obvious as to be an embarrassment for everyone?

What do you mean by integration?

I guess you mean immigration?

Ask David Cameron - he said it, not me!

Like, the opposite of segregation? Didn't that stop in the 60s?

David Cameron has set out the government's strategy to defeat the "poison" of Islamist extremism.

He pledged to tackle extremist ideology and "the failures of integration" which he said had led to hundreds of Britons joining Islamic State (IS) militants.

His speech today to tackle Islamic Extremists.

I'm sure he did know 10 years ago, but we were in the heights of the Labour "smear anyone who has doubts as a racist" years. It's only recently people have dared to speak out about integration problems.

But you said "it's an embarrassment to everyone"

I'm sorry but its not glaringly obvious to me, please tell me what I'm missing.

What a load of old bollocks!

Did he actually say that quote in the op? I'm confused.

Oh sorry cross post!

Has he said what his alternative is? I have my own thoughts on this but I'm never sure how to word them...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33590305

Whole speech here.

And thankfully he's got the solution! Because added stigma and prejudice will totally make British Muslims feel better about their dual identity and less conflicted.

I thought that "integration" was the opposite of "multiculturalism"?
I also thought that what has been the dominant political preach has been multiculturalism?
So how can "integration" have failed?

So, Whether, are all Muslims extremists then?

Surely having a good relationship with this large and diverse group of people, who happen to have the same religion, is better than alienating a whole group of people.

Shall we start segregating extreme Christians as well?

It's called distraction politics. Don't look over there, look here. Here's what you must look at. Look... Here is the bad man. You are being manipulated. Ask yourself why you are being told what you are being told. Ask yourself who is benefiting from this.

So, Whether, are all Muslims extremists then? said YouTheCat

Why are you asking me? I only started the thread to see what people think - not to be asked stupid questions

Shows what I know. I thought you meant class integration. Now that would be something DC knows NOTHING about.

You started it, Whether.

Integration is working pretty well imo. None of my Muslim colleagues hold aloof, and the Ramadan joke this year was "cheer up, it's worse in Reykjavik". IS wannabes are fewer than the number of Walts and psychos who went off to fight in the Yugoslav wars. Some of those guys joined the Ustashi specifically to shoot non-Catholics.
It's just CMD trying to steal the fascists' clothes, the shiny faced pillock.

You started it, Whether.

Yes, I started the thread YouTheCat - and your point is......?

Ellie, I don't want to start a bunfight, but is "distraction politics" your answer to everything?

What is it you think we're being distracted from?

I want to know what your point is and what your gripe with Muslims is.

My muslim neighbours are lovely, they always say hello and make an effort to integrate. My PIL have muslim neighbours too, and they also (especially at Ramadan) make an effort with their neighbours - sharing food, etc.