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Small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight - huge police motorcade

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PassMeTheInternet · Yesterday 22:49

This is the police escort for the latest small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight.

What on earth is going on with this country?

I don’t know how to link a video from Twitter. The videos show the full extent of the operation.

Small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight - huge police motorcade
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DeftGoldHedgehog · Today 17:33

hmmdunno · Yesterday 23:11

Rubbish. The RNLI have been targeted, even boats slashed, by thugs. It’s perfectly legitimate for police to respond to highly coordinated criminal activity. Unfortunately there are many who would like to see societal breakdown and promote these right wing conspirancies. Radicalised by Facebook.

I agree, doing Russia's work for them. They are traitors.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 17:35

DeftGoldHedgehog · Today 17:33

I agree, doing Russia's work for them. They are traitors.

They aren't the only traitors.

Schlossadler · Today 17:36

FirmSnake · Today 17:33

Do you live near asylum seekers?

No, I don’t and nor would I wish to live near a large number of men who do not share our values.

Cadeaukatze · Today 17:37

WeAreNumpties · Today 16:16

Who's we?

You are ignoring an actual experience because it doesn't fit with your ideology.

What sort of immigrants are ok for you then? What nationalities would you be ok with?

I'm happy with people who come lawfully and with documentation so we know who they are and where they have come from. That said, even Afghan refugees who came over (legally) in the aftermath of the Taliban taking back control there were treating their womenfolk badly in London and were surprised when told to toe the line by the British police. I do not want men coming here who have no idea how to behave. We have enough of our own like the murderer of Sarah Everard.

But we also have a lot of unemployment so do we actually need immigration at all? There will be a few specific jobs and careers such as caring but for the rest people can be trained. But employers are too lazy and all they see is profit. They don't want to waste money training people when they can import them from overseas.

Somerford · Today 17:38

GiaGia16 · Today 17:28

Is this a wind up?

Yes it is

MaturingCheeseball · Today 17:41

I am rather suspicious that those bandying the term “Nazi” about and talking of Hitler are not particularly friendly towards Jewish people. In fact if I could be bothered to do a forensic examination of, for example, the Jewish ambulances attack in London thread, then I imagine we might well find a few of the posters minimising that yelling about Hitler on this thread.

FirmSnake · Today 17:45

Schlossadler · Today 17:36

No, I don’t and nor would I wish to live near a large number of men who do not share our values.

Oh I know you don't. I can tell from the things you say.
But I wasn't asking you.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 17:46

Schlossadler · Today 17:36

No, I don’t and nor would I wish to live near a large number of men who do not share our values.

Me neither.

CombatBarbie · Today 17:46

PassMeTheInternet · Yesterday 23:01

The size, expense and amount of prep planning going on here is incredible. Someone on Twitter said it’s bigger than the police escorts he’s seen when nuclear weapons are transported.

Imagine if all this money and manpower was put into stopping the boats?

Not just twitter, its a huge military area,I had so many live feeds from friends on FB, tikto, Insta. The buses were waiting, the police were waiting, they knew exactly where they were coming into.

DebbieSavage · Today 17:47

DeftGoldHedgehog · Today 17:33

I agree, doing Russia's work for them. They are traitors.

Absolutely Russia is involved. They are insanely jealous of our strong and stable multicultural society and are trying to find a way to break us apart from the inside. They know that diversity is our strength and without it, they will conquer us easily. We must not let them win. We need more Eritrean and Somalian fighting age men now to defeat the Russian Empire.

TemperanceWest · Today 17:49

5MinuteArgument · Today 17:08

Ah yes, 'I used to live in an area with a large immigrant population. It was so great, I upped and moved.' I hear this a lot from the open borders lobby. Waxing lyrical about the great multicultural neighbourhood they used to live in. And there's always so so many reasons why they left.

I had a bet with myself that someone would say that. Put it this way, if I won the lottery and my DH made a miraculous recovery from his incurable illness we'd go back tomorrow. I ❤️ London. It is the best place in the world. But we'd need close on a million quid to go back to the street we lived on now.

The reason we left was nothing to do with immigration.

5MinuteArgument · Today 17:53

AgathaDanbury · Today 16:58

I think the difference is that Australia could push the boats out of Australian waters and into international waters without being accused of invading another country's territory, whereas there is no international water between e.g. Dover and Calais.

I suppose you could push the dinghy along into a wider part of the channel, but you are still operating in a very busy shipping lane.

If it were straightforward to copy the Australian strategy, would the Conservatives not have done so?

No, because like Labour, they're globalists at heart.

The Conservatives want a bottomless pit of cheap labour for their friends in big business. Labour want to import the next generation of Labour voters.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 17:53

DebbieSavage · Today 17:47

Absolutely Russia is involved. They are insanely jealous of our strong and stable multicultural society and are trying to find a way to break us apart from the inside. They know that diversity is our strength and without it, they will conquer us easily. We must not let them win. We need more Eritrean and Somalian fighting age men now to defeat the Russian Empire.

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Pmsl

LuckyHazelFox · Today 17:54

5MinuteArgument · Today 17:53

No, because like Labour, they're globalists at heart.

The Conservatives want a bottomless pit of cheap labour for their friends in big business. Labour want to import the next generation of Labour voters.

A fair assessment.

5MinuteArgument · Today 17:57

TemperanceWest · Today 17:49

I had a bet with myself that someone would say that. Put it this way, if I won the lottery and my DH made a miraculous recovery from his incurable illness we'd go back tomorrow. I ❤️ London. It is the best place in the world. But we'd need close on a million quid to go back to the street we lived on now.

The reason we left was nothing to do with immigration.

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Yes and of course sky-rocketing house prices has nothing at all to do with the numbers of people who have entered the country over the last 10-20 years.

Clavinova · Today 17:58

RemakeRemodel · Today 13:17

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10590/
This is from 3 weeks ago. Not sure where your data on the 10,000 was - I guess you mean 2018-2021? Either way, it's exploded in the last 10 years and Brexit is a massive factor.

Not sure where your data on the 10,000 was

Your link has the data!

We left the Dublin III Regulation on 31 December 2020 - your link tells us that 10,608 people had arrived by small boat by that date.

Either way, it's exploded in the last 10 years and Brexit is a massive factor.

Your link doesn't say anything about Brexit. Why did asylum applications explode across the EU after Covid? Why has France had its highest ever number of asylum applications in the last few years - did France leave the EU?

Schlossadler · Today 17:59

TemperanceWest · Today 16:44

I think most people want the boats to stop. But not everyone thinks the people in those boats are going to drag us from our beds and rape and kill us or replace us so our young people can be sent Ukraine etc.

Its reassuring that most people want the boats to stop.

Dadalus · Today 17:59

PassMeTheInternet · Today 16:04

I haven’t seen one post on this thread doing A. Have you?l

eta There have been some deletions so maybe I’ve missed these comments.

Edited

No, it was mentioned a couple of times on the few pages I read, so assumed. That'll teach me

EscCtrl · Today 18:01

PassMeTheInternet · Today 16:29

There are figures available from other European countries eg Denmark which don’t require a statistical expert to understand. But I’m sure you’ll find a reason why they are unacceptable.

I actually find it odd that people question that men who arrive from countries with higher levels of violence towards women and more regressive attitudes towards women are more likely to be violent towards women.

Oh sorry, I haven’t got a phd in ethnogeography, I shouldn’t really have an opinion on that.

Please don't dismiss knowledge of statistical analysis as if it does not matter in understanding a problem. Please don't take my doubt as a dismissal of rational concerns about the quantity and type of immigration that would be good for the country. I think that poorly managed large scale immigration is causing problems, (7% of the UK population since 2010, with the increase in UK population attributable to small boats being about 0.3%). My concerns are economic, not cultural. I enjoy cultural diversity. From here in Croydon where my nearest neighbours are from Morocco, Pakistan, Lebanon, Poland, and Ghana (all working, and I presume paying tax), I see no threat to my British way of life.

CoventryCity · Today 18:04

‘I ❤️ London. It is the best place in the world.’

Well I never, we agree on one thing anyway.

beguilingeyes · Today 18:05

5MinuteArgument · Today 17:57

Yes and of course sky-rocketing house prices has nothing at all to do with the numbers of people who have entered the country over the last 10-20 years.

You think asylum seekers are buying million pound houses? Nothing to do with oligarchs and money laundering then...

LuckyHazelFox · Today 18:05

Schlossadler · Today 17:59

Its reassuring that most people want the boats to stop.

It's not even as though we believe every asylum seeker is a threat. It's the unknown that are making their way here and we feel helpless. Yes, I'm happy to admit it scares me but it doesn't pose a threat to me like it does for women and girls who live in affected areas. Piddington have had the wake up call that they never saw coming.

AgathaDanbury · Today 18:06

CombatBarbie · Today 17:46

Not just twitter, its a huge military area,I had so many live feeds from friends on FB, tikto, Insta. The buses were waiting, the police were waiting, they knew exactly where they were coming into.

What were you expecting? That there would have been no preparation? Would you have preferred that?

LuckyHazelFox · Today 18:07

Many of us enjoy cultural diversity, when it's built with good intentions.

cityliving99 · Today 18:07

DebbieSavage · Today 17:19

This small boats crisis needs to end, winter is coming and the weather will get extremely hazardous for crossings. We need to start processing the refugees at Calais and bringing them over safely on Royal Navy ships. On the journey we can ascertain who they are and assign them to different wards up and down the country to spread them out efficiently and evenly, so that no one place is burdened too heavily.

We also need to start investing in creating new towns and cities in the Northwest in Cumbria and Northumberland in the Northeast to deal with the flow. The climate crisis is only going to fuel a bigger need for sanctuary and we need to be amongst the primary nations to do our part.

Who is going to pay for all that then? So you want towns of single men? What is your reasoning for wanting more and more single men from countries where women are basically slaves?