Thread 6 Burnham: Resitting and Resetting

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Talking about stupid

The racists are now abusing Britain's main blind people’s charity, the RNIB, accusing it of helping "small boat" migrants after mistaking it for the RNLI.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rnib-blindness-rnli-migrant-protest-portsmouth-dover-b3050428.html

I used to work in a university. I knew a lot of Professors like that.

Not a good time to be a paediatrician

That I can well believe.

I am a graduate who can also do food adjacent arson! Do I get a prize?

Oh, go on, of course you do 😁

I do not understand how someone can stand as a candidate for Reform knowing their stance on immigration and their attacks on Wales as a Nation of Sanctuary and then say ‘I cannot support Reform's attacks on people seeking sanctuary’.
Ending the nation of Sanctuary was in their bloody manifesto ffs. Didn’t she read it?

DH reckons she just jumped on the Reform bandwagon to get a seat.

I am cross because we need to be able to trust politicians and our votes should mean something. I’m glad that she’s seen through Reform, I really am but I’m furious too. I feel the same about any defectors and I deplore the system in Wales that prevents by-elections.

Edited to change vets to votes. I’m sure the vets are doing their best even if they are extortionate these days.

Yes this. Young people can be easily persuaded/coercived into standing for a political role they're not happy with.

I have said this throughout my working life and often found that people who were academically intelligent had very little or no common sense. My job depended on common sense. I speak from my own experience obviously.

I don't see this lady's actions as anything other than keeping in with whoever is most popular at the time. I can't see how she couldn't have know how divisive Reform are before she chose to join them. I'm hoping that Plaid are keeping this in mind.

While I think there are issues around by elections in Wales, this wouldn’t trigger one in Westminster either.

No, I know that @cardibach and I’m not happy about that either! I think defecting to another party and remaining an MP or MS is just wrong.
But as I understand it, unlike Westminster, even if a candidate resigns from the Senedd then that wouldn’t trigger a by-election, the next person from that party on the list gets the job. Which I suppose gives the electorate what they initially voted for despite the fact they might have changed their mind over time.
I’m just not keen on the whole system in Wales.

There are definite flaws with the system. It still better than FPTP in most cases though.

Tax to come. Thanks for the new thread.

Lord Harper on newsnight is being an absolute wanker. Doesn't seem to have a clue, refusing to answer questions and repeating the same tired old rubbish (Rwanda scheme was the golden bullet, mean Labour made it fail, tories did nothing wrong and will wave a magic wand).

Absolutely idiotic and incredibly rude to the viewers and VD.

Hopefully they can all make their own arrangements for healthcare, education, bin collections and pothole fixing (and all those other things they pay their especially hardworking taxes for) , while they roar.

Piddington in Oxfordshire votes to leave UK over asylum plans - BBC News share.google/p2hTKXRRjLUcXM9PY

"How can it be right we have to put on our streets security to protect indigenous white women and girls on our streets because they can't go and walk their dogs, the kids can't walk home from school?"

Sarah Pochin on Piddington.

I blinked and missed the new thread starting!

It's a very white village going by the photos.

Let them leave and wish them good luck. They can have their hard border.

I keep reading that headline as Paddington wants to leave the UK. I think i need new specs.

I recommend last night’s News Agents which includes some jaw dropping footage of Danny Tommo harassing an innocent passer by because they looked at the protesters funny. It’s unbelievable.

I’ve seen that footage @BIossomtoes . I’m not sure why he hasn’t been arrested - there’s a clear threat in there about what might happen off camera. Though it’s laughable that it’s made while ‘Tommo’ is holding the camera himself. The man he’s harassing is incredibly calm I don’t think I would have been.

I’ve seen it too and don’t understand how it isn’t criminal behaviour. Perhaps it is.

Interview with a woman in Piddington who has a different view and is being othered

https://bsky.app/profile/rolandmcs.bsky.social/post/3mvmq6qe3mk2d

I saw that interview. My heart goes out to them.
Learning that people you have talked to, may have had in your home, chatted with in schools actually have such abhorrent views must be really hard. It would make you second guess your entire history there.

EU chief Ursula von der Leyen says she wants to open the door for Canada to become the bloc's first associate member.

Australia says it could follow.

Is Burnham still meeting Carney today?

Presumably the same people who were quick to tell Scotland they can’t use sterling, can’t defend themselves, can’t have the BBC etc aren’t being hypocritical and are making the same arguments now.