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Labour isn't Working - Thread 40

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Nuthatch26 · 07/09/2026 13:26

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 🥀

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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LupaMoonhowl · 09/09/2026 19:23

Nuthatch26 · 09/09/2026 19:17

This is quite informative if you need to check whether your dh is still eligible.

https://www.forcesnews.com/services/tri-service/strategic-reserve-what-it-are-you-it-and-would-you-even-know

Mine was a para so can’t believe he would be drafted back at 60 - thanks for the heads up!

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Nuthatch26 · 09/09/2026 19:39

Tim Stanley never fails to make me laugh when I most need it. Brilliant sketch on today's PMQs. 😂😂😂
When Kemi Badenoch tried to drum up a political argument – imagine Plato going head to head with Dale Winton – the only thing he said of remote interest was the one thing he shouldn’t.“National security… cannot come at the expense of social security.” Hilarious! The pound practically ran out of the chamber.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/47c4314f6a1b35c6

An Andy Burnham PMQs has all the gravitas of Pets Win Prizes

Kemi’s attempts to drum up a political argument is like Plato trying to debate Dale Winton

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/47c4314f6a1b35c6

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Sarahconnor1 · 09/09/2026 19:40

LupaMoonhowl · 09/09/2026 19:23

Mine was a para so can’t believe he would be drafted back at 60 - thanks for the heads up!

Mine can also be called back up.

CaveMum · 09/09/2026 19:57

I’m not sure which takes precedence- the 18 year liability or the upper age limit.

It’ll be a total cock up either way. They’re supposed to send regular letters to make sure they have your contact details (why this isn’t done online/paper free I don’t know!). DH received his first and second letters in 2024 - the first had been sent to him in 2021 and had sat in the Officers Mess at his last base for 3 years, the second was marked urgent and berated him for not responding to the first.

Why on earth they thought it was sensible to send these letters care of an Officers Mess for someone who had left the service, I do not know. They have our home address on file as they send his pension statement every month!

DinnerinfrontoftheTV · 09/09/2026 20:53

Ladies…I don’t know what to say. Pushing the limit to 60 sounds really desperate. How bad are things?

And what cheek for this to happen under the same Labour gang who hounded former soldiers for following orders decades ago!

I am a naturalised British citizen, and I have been shocked at how poorly military families in Britain are treated.

SeriouslycanitgetWORSE · 09/09/2026 21:32

"Plato going head to head with Dale Winton".

That's fabulous he is so Dale Winton isn't he!

I don't think he made a mistake at all ! I it's what he truly believes and where his priorities are.

PurplePinata · 10/09/2026 09:07

Worrall20 · 09/09/2026 15:17

Yep exactly, only good thing is he is really helping Kemi to be the next PM. 👏👏👏

I would be happy for Kemi to be PM. She talks a lot of sense. This labour government is utterly dire and they make me so bloody angry!

Nuthatch26 · 10/09/2026 10:51

CaveMum · 09/09/2026 19:57

I’m not sure which takes precedence- the 18 year liability or the upper age limit.

It’ll be a total cock up either way. They’re supposed to send regular letters to make sure they have your contact details (why this isn’t done online/paper free I don’t know!). DH received his first and second letters in 2024 - the first had been sent to him in 2021 and had sat in the Officers Mess at his last base for 3 years, the second was marked urgent and berated him for not responding to the first.

Why on earth they thought it was sensible to send these letters care of an Officers Mess for someone who had left the service, I do not know. They have our home address on file as they send his pension statement every month!

I guess we'll just have to wait.
Dh hasn't heard anything from them for years now. None of his ex army mates have heard anything either.
There are at least four of us on this thread in the same boat, so at least we've got each other to moan at if it comes to pass. Thanks for the heads up on this, I didn't know.

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Nuthatch26 · 10/09/2026 10:59

DinnerinfrontoftheTV · 09/09/2026 20:53

Ladies…I don’t know what to say. Pushing the limit to 60 sounds really desperate. How bad are things?

And what cheek for this to happen under the same Labour gang who hounded former soldiers for following orders decades ago!

I am a naturalised British citizen, and I have been shocked at how poorly military families in Britain are treated.

Ikr.
Absolute joke. How about we fund our armed forces properly for a change, instead of calling up 60 year old paras for training?
How about we don't make a big public song and dance about giving Ukraine blueprints for long range weapons prompting a response from Russia?

Burnham made his priority clear yesterday. "National security can't come at the expense of social security". Its the Labour way.

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MPforTitipu · 10/09/2026 11:10

DH and I were discussing this call up and looked at the photograph of the Cabinet. He asked who among them would we be inclined to fight for. He had two, I had one and a half!

Nuthatch26 · 10/09/2026 11:15

MPforTitipu · 10/09/2026 11:10

DH and I were discussing this call up and looked at the photograph of the Cabinet. He asked who among them would we be inclined to fight for. He had two, I had one and a half!

This made me laugh. 😂
Who was the half?

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Nuthatch26 · 10/09/2026 11:26

DinnerinfrontoftheTV · 10/09/2026 11:14

Great article, thanks. I agree with her. Even the UN agree.
I really like the comment from a resident of Southsea talking about the local MP condemning the protesters while having nothing to say about the root cause.

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DancingFerret · 10/09/2026 11:49

DinnerinfrontoftheTV · 10/09/2026 11:14

Excellent article.

I do wonder how many people voted for Brexit in the belief leaving the EU would close our borders and stop illegal immigration, when in fact it allowed those who failed to gain asylum in the EU another chance to apply in the UK.

EasternStandard · 10/09/2026 12:14

Nuthatch26 · 10/09/2026 11:26

Great article, thanks. I agree with her. Even the UN agree.
I really like the comment from a resident of Southsea talking about the local MP condemning the protesters while having nothing to say about the root cause.

Yes it’s just a symptom. Piddington might object more politely but anywhere with similar is likely to feel the same. Despite what is posted on here and SM generally.

When 1000 plus men are nearby, people say no.

Whatever method it’s related to a system that’s no longer working.

SapphireCasino · 10/09/2026 12:23

Sorry if this is wrong

I have an ex army contact and I spoke to him about it and he said that the 50 to 60 age group would only be called for planning stuff. I don’t think anyone suggesting that that age group goes in for physical training. He is an active reserve.

I wasn’t sure whether to post this here, but he told me that the army are really bad at keeping people informed about stuff, so I thought perhaps it would be helpful if I did share it.

CaveMum · 10/09/2026 12:35

SapphireCasino · 10/09/2026 12:23

Sorry if this is wrong

I have an ex army contact and I spoke to him about it and he said that the 50 to 60 age group would only be called for planning stuff. I don’t think anyone suggesting that that age group goes in for physical training. He is an active reserve.

I wasn’t sure whether to post this here, but he told me that the army are really bad at keeping people informed about stuff, so I thought perhaps it would be helpful if I did share it.

Thanks @SapphireCasino I didn’t imagine DH would be called up for active service - as I used to describe it, he only flew a desk during his service as a Logistics Officer anyway!

More of a concern is time away from the family and, worst case, whether it could have an effect on his employer. I’m sure there are laws to prevent firms from sacking anyone with a possible service liability, but you can bet that in a redundancy situation companies would look at something like this when deciding who to keep on.

FullOfLemons · 10/09/2026 12:35

DancingFerret · 10/09/2026 11:49

Excellent article.

I do wonder how many people voted for Brexit in the belief leaving the EU would close our borders and stop illegal immigration, when in fact it allowed those who failed to gain asylum in the EU another chance to apply in the UK.

You can blame Brexit for at a lot of things, but I’m not sure that is one of them.

Failure to be granted asylum in one EU country doesn’t prevent somebody trying again in another. It would be fair to say that most EU countries would apply some common sense and reject the subsequent claim.

However, in the UK we have a small army of “human rights” lawyers to help them with the additional “evidence” required. And as the Times articles highlighted, the Home Office don’t even do basic checks of this !

The cynic in me thinks if we stopped illegal migration, we would have fewer jobs in the Home Office, and the unions would be donating less to the Labour Party.

justasking111 · 10/09/2026 13:24

BRITAIN, ALONE AGAIN

Tuesday. Miliband stands up in the Commons, bans goods from Jewish settlements, calls the occupation unlawful, and accuses settlers of terrorism and ethnic cleansing.

By Tuesday evening Israel had closed the British Consulate in Jerusalem, pulled British reps out of the Gaza coordination centre in Kiryat Gat, ended the UK training mission for Palestinian Authority forces, and banned twelve sitting British officials from entering the country.

That is not a diplomatic disagreement. That is a country hanging up on you mid sentence.

Foreign Minister Saar called it blatant interference in a sovereign state's election, which is in seven weeks, and accused Britain of running a domestic political stunt for the Labour conference dressed up as foreign policy. Smotrich wants the ambassador expelled. Herzog said Britain will be on the wrong side of history. That is four separate senior Israeli officials, from different wings of a fractious government, agreeing on one thing this week.

Meanwhile in Washington, Huckabee went on the Today programme and pointed out that a quarter of the medicine in British hospitals is manufactured in Israel, and asked, not rhetorically, whether Britain had actually thought this through.

And Florida found the receipt from 2019. A state anti boycott law that already bankrupted Airbnb's attempt to do exactly this now applies to any British company that complies with Miliband's ban. Congressman Fine posted the whole mechanism publicly. Any company or nation that boycotts Israel is boycotted by Florida, one of Britain's largest trading partners.

So in the space of one afternoon Britain managed to lose its consulate, its West Bank training mission, its Gaza coordination seat, and access to the fourth largest state economy in America, in exchange for a settlement goods ban that even Miliband's own Foreign Office reportedly warned would not work because the two economies are too interconnected to separate cleanly.

And who is applauding.

Hamas welcomed the announcement. Iran's state media ran it as a win. Corbyn, who is now personally banned from entering Israel over it, called it a step in the right direction.

That is the guest list. Britain lost Israel, irritated its largest American trading partner, and picked up praise from the people who actually did the ethnic cleansing on October the 7th.

Tugendhat stood up in the same debate and said the quiet part. Illegal settlements are wrong, settler violence against civilians is real, and none of that required reducing an entire region to one sentence timed for a party conference.

You can hold two things at once. Britain apparently cannot.

Keep going like this and the only country still returning Britain's calls is going to be the one holding the phone for Hamas.

🦋

SapphireCasino · 10/09/2026 13:47

DancingFerret · 10/09/2026 11:49

Excellent article.

I do wonder how many people voted for Brexit in the belief leaving the EU would close our borders and stop illegal immigration, when in fact it allowed those who failed to gain asylum in the EU another chance to apply in the UK.

This argument comes up a lot

I can’t be bothered rehashing it again
A short version, I suppose, is to look into it

It hasn’t stopped countries still in the EU having this problem. We only had about 300 a year deported on that basis and I think we had to take a lot more. It really is a myth, I actually think it might have hindered us rather than helped us.

Someone mentioned that certain branches of MSM are still promoting this theory, which doesn’t help.

if you find anything statistical that contradicts this, obviously do let me know but I do tend to address this one whenever I see it on the boards because it’s weirdly persistent.

We can blame Brexit for a lot of things, but as far as I can see that isn’t one of them.

EasternStandard · 10/09/2026 13:57

SapphireCasino · 10/09/2026 13:47

This argument comes up a lot

I can’t be bothered rehashing it again
A short version, I suppose, is to look into it

It hasn’t stopped countries still in the EU having this problem. We only had about 300 a year deported on that basis and I think we had to take a lot more. It really is a myth, I actually think it might have hindered us rather than helped us.

Someone mentioned that certain branches of MSM are still promoting this theory, which doesn’t help.

if you find anything statistical that contradicts this, obviously do let me know but I do tend to address this one whenever I see it on the boards because it’s weirdly persistent.

We can blame Brexit for a lot of things, but as far as I can see that isn’t one of them.

Exactly this.

I went to a very well known BBC news person who said the same lines. No wonder misinformation is so rife re Brexit and asylum process.

MPforTitipu · 10/09/2026 14:32

Nuthatch26 · 10/09/2026 11:15

This made me laugh. 😂
Who was the half?

John Healey when he is pro defence funding.