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Labour isn't Working - Thread 39

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Nuthatch26 · 19/08/2026 10:20

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 🥀

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 10:41

strawberrybubblegum · 22/08/2026 07:36

It's odd isn't it. The UK have always been thought leaders and direction-givers in democracy and civil rights.

The EHCR (which we created) has been corrupted beyond saving.

It's entirely appropriate (and very British!) for us to say no - and to create yet another new and better way to do things.

Agree. According to some we'd be back in the dark ages if we ditched the ECHR.

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Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 10:44

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 22/08/2026 08:06

Oh FFS. Apparently Burnham yesterday held a meeting billed as a virtual ‘growth situation room’. Healey, Haigh and Rayner were part of it.

The Situation Room is a giant room in the White House stuffed full of monitors and encrypted comms equipment where senior politicians, military staff and intelligence people gather to direct US armed forces around the world.

The idea that Burnham and a few pathetically useless ministers logging on to Zoom to talk about VAT exemptions for pubs is a ‘situation room’ is laughable.

Burnham truly is a trivial man and one who takes us for fools with his highfalutin ‘urgent’ alerts, his COBRA meetings and his ‘situation room’.

This will not end well for Labour.

Embarrassing.
Also agree that this won't end well. He will be a subject of ridicule if he doesn't change tack.

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SapphireCasino · 22/08/2026 10:48

@Nuthatch26 I looked at the history of this at some point because people seem to be in such a panic about it

I don’t know if I’m missing something, but I can’t really see the issue….

Anyway, all this talk of Booths…. I might have to get a catalogue or something.

So many of you seem to live in these nice areas, can’t you find me a nice Northern man who cooks and shops at Booths 😂I can move up north. Which I would prefer to Mississippi being honest….

Knutsford also on my list of places to visit. It’s a long list! I am slowly making almost no progress with it every year.

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Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 10:53

Just for balance, my DH thinks Booths is overpriced nonsense. Obviously I think he has no taste. 😊

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DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 22/08/2026 11:01

Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 10:44

Embarrassing.
Also agree that this won't end well. He will be a subject of ridicule if he doesn't change tack.

Yes, it’s the ridicule I had in mind. When politicians and parties become figures of fun they can’t recover without a period out of power.

I can easily see Burnham becoming a ludicrous figure banging on about bus timetables as the economy, unemployment, bankruptcies, asylum, the state of the armed forces etc fester away. It’s all very well being ‘relatable’ but voters want leadership and big figures in charge.

Not, therefore, a supermarket manager looky-likey who plays with his model buses and pretends he’s in the White House.

Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 11:15

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 22/08/2026 11:01

Yes, it’s the ridicule I had in mind. When politicians and parties become figures of fun they can’t recover without a period out of power.

I can easily see Burnham becoming a ludicrous figure banging on about bus timetables as the economy, unemployment, bankruptcies, asylum, the state of the armed forces etc fester away. It’s all very well being ‘relatable’ but voters want leadership and big figures in charge.

Not, therefore, a supermarket manager looky-likey who plays with his model buses and pretends he’s in the White House.

Yep, being the subject of ridicule is far more damaging, even than being disliked. They rarely recover once that takes hold.

Looks like we're in for a bumpy ride if this is Burnham's MO.

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NoWordForFluffy · 22/08/2026 12:27

Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 10:53

Just for balance, my DH thinks Booths is overpriced nonsense. Obviously I think he has no taste. 😊

Thankfully my DH is fully on board with my Booths love (he may even love it more than I do!).

@SapphireCasino, if you contact Booths they'll post you a copy of the Christmas book (or they used to). I can send you an old one as we have duplicates from at least a couple of years! My kids save the books each year. Xmas Grin

SheepinWolfsdress · 22/08/2026 13:34

Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 10:41

Agree. According to some we'd be back in the dark ages if we ditched the ECHR.

And we were the very "light "

SheepinWolfsdress · 22/08/2026 13:35

One can just imagine spitting image on this lot and Burnham stroking a big red bus

DancingFerret · 22/08/2026 13:35

NoWordForFluffy · 22/08/2026 12:27

Thankfully my DH is fully on board with my Booths love (he may even love it more than I do!).

@SapphireCasino, if you contact Booths they'll post you a copy of the Christmas book (or they used to). I can send you an old one as we have duplicates from at least a couple of years! My kids save the books each year. Xmas Grin

My DH is much worse than me; thinks no trip up north is complete without a visit to Booths. He has one of those plug-in coolboxes in his vehicle, which I'm convinced he bought solely to stock up on their products to take home on the last day of our trip. 🙄

SheepinWolfsdress · 22/08/2026 13:36
  • im having to interchange the hart emoji with the old banned laughter one.
SapphireCasino · 22/08/2026 13:39

The level of fandom for Booths is quite something! Cool boxes and keeping the books - wow. My face is going to be a picture when I go!

maybe I should write to Andy Burnham about our buses 😂

I can't focus on anything today. I've got loads of boring stuff to do. I've been for a nice walk but I'm still really fidgety and looking for something interesting to do

So if you see me on here before 5 o'clock, tell me to go away!

DancingFerret · 22/08/2026 13:53

Scrolling while listening to the energetic debates on Any Questions, then I clicked on the DM and saw this. Seven families torn apart. RIP.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16071715/Multiple-people-dead-police-car-Volkswagen-collide-road-early-hours-morning.html

SheepinWolfsdress · 22/08/2026 14:04

Yes browsing a booths catalogue has been part of my Xmas for years 😂

Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 14:07

DancingFerret · 22/08/2026 13:35

My DH is much worse than me; thinks no trip up north is complete without a visit to Booths. He has one of those plug-in coolboxes in his vehicle, which I'm convinced he bought solely to stock up on their products to take home on the last day of our trip. 🙄

I'm jealous Dancing.
I just get eye rolls, and "no better than Lidl".
Doesn't stop him scoffing everything I buy though. 😂

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DancingFerret · 22/08/2026 14:15

Nuthatch26 · 22/08/2026 14:07

I'm jealous Dancing.
I just get eye rolls, and "no better than Lidl".
Doesn't stop him scoffing everything I buy though. 😂

😂😂😂

NoWordForFluffy · 22/08/2026 14:30

DancingFerret · 22/08/2026 13:35

My DH is much worse than me; thinks no trip up north is complete without a visit to Booths. He has one of those plug-in coolboxes in his vehicle, which I'm convinced he bought solely to stock up on their products to take home on the last day of our trip. 🙄

Go at yellow ticket time. It's immense!

@SapphireCasino, it's just a very calm, lovely shopping experience. And the cheese counter is brilliant!

DinnerinfrontoftheTV · 22/08/2026 14:51

Booths makes me think of trips to the Lake District. It has an epic drinks aisle.

DinnerinfrontoftheTV · 22/08/2026 14:54

strawberrybubblegum · 22/08/2026 06:10

I suspect there may be a showdown though, with both the civil service and the human rights industry trying to circumvent the new laws.

Interesting times.

So true. Leaving the ECHR is necessary but not sufficient. As long as we have activist judges who insist on a fantastically expansive interpretation of the law, we will have problems.

strawberrybubblegum · 22/08/2026 15:13

DinnerinfrontoftheTV · 22/08/2026 14:54

So true. Leaving the ECHR is necessary but not sufficient. As long as we have activist judges who insist on a fantastically expansive interpretation of the law, we will have problems.

I think that will be a very dangerous point.

If the people vote in a government which writes laws to stop immigration... but due to judges, civil servants and activists those laws aren't followed through... then democracy and legal process will have shown itself powerless. What will the population do next?

SheepinWolfsdress · 22/08/2026 15:26

@DinnerinfrontoftheTV very true re the interpretation

NancyThompson · 22/08/2026 16:40

DinnerinfrontoftheTV · 22/08/2026 14:51

Booths makes me think of trips to the Lake District. It has an epic drinks aisle.

I quite like to people watch in the one outside Kendall, and see what the posh people are putting in their trolleys.

NoWordForFluffy · 22/08/2026 17:15

strawberrybubblegum · 22/08/2026 15:13

I think that will be a very dangerous point.

If the people vote in a government which writes laws to stop immigration... but due to judges, civil servants and activists those laws aren't followed through... then democracy and legal process will have shown itself powerless. What will the population do next?

If the judges don't follow the law, the judgment can be appealed. I foresee a great deal of expensive litigation.

RoseInAPot · 22/08/2026 17:25

strawberrybubblegum · 22/08/2026 15:13

I think that will be a very dangerous point.

If the people vote in a government which writes laws to stop immigration... but due to judges, civil servants and activists those laws aren't followed through... then democracy and legal process will have shown itself powerless. What will the population do next?

Well we are already seeing some of that with the Supreme Court decision on FWS. The judges have laid down the law and civil servants, charities, councils, unions, even MPs are saying they are going to ignore it.

So even when we have sensible judges it doesn’t seem to matter.

SapphireCasino · 22/08/2026 21:04

NoWordForFluffy · 22/08/2026 17:15

If the judges don't follow the law, the judgment can be appealed. I foresee a great deal of expensive litigation.

What actually happens if judges don’t follow the law, though? Wouldn’t that be… the path to revolution?

I’m just catching up with this news about the crash. I feel as if I’ve missed something - why would the Prime Minister need to comment? I’ve definitely missed something haven’t I? Or is it because of the poor police victims?

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