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Labour isn't Working - Thread 39

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Nuthatch26 · 19/08/2026 10:20

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 🥀

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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caringcarer · 03/09/2026 22:28

DinnerinfrontoftheTV · 03/09/2026 21:30

I try to encourage mine to shower at the gym. To no avail.

I try this too but also in vane.

NoWordForFluffy · 03/09/2026 22:56

CaveMum · 03/09/2026 22:53

Do we think Nige et al are on borrowed time then?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr50ddzl97qo

I thought they were before this, to be honest, so I definitely do now.

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DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 03/09/2026 23:11

Stinks. The sad fact is, though, that many of Farage’s voters are just angry small-minded people who he calculates, correctly, simply don’t care about party funding rules.

I’d predict that the effect of C4’s investigation will be to shrink Reform’s polling by a couple of points, probably temporarily, no more.

The £5m to him personally is different because everyone can understand and disapprove of someone on the make for himself. We’ll have to see what comes of the parliamentary enquiry. That could sink him.

justasking111 · 03/09/2026 23:37

There's a lot of mud being thrown at Reform and Restore lately. This just makes me think that the whispers about an election are gaining legs.

strawberrybubblegum · 04/09/2026 06:26

justasking111 · 03/09/2026 23:37

There's a lot of mud being thrown at Reform and Restore lately. This just makes me think that the whispers about an election are gaining legs.

It would be a huge risk for Labour, and I'd be astonished if it turned out well for them.

But Burnham has no actual ideas - and just wants to be popular - so he'll probably do it just to distract everyone for a while.

RosieHosie · 04/09/2026 06:43

caringcarer · 03/09/2026 21:25

Mine does a lot of sport so often has 3 showers or baths in a day. It's so annoying.

DH showers twice a day, once to wake up and one to clean off as he does a manual job and can get pretty mucky. He does only shower for 4 minutes though! (We timed ourselves once to prove that DD was taking too long 🤣)

RosieHosie · 04/09/2026 06:50

Just saw this on the BBC Newsnight FB page, very true!

www.facebook.com/share/r/1DkjqLHimu/

KatiePricesKnickers · 04/09/2026 07:34

Fair bit of thread derailing going on now.

NoWordForFluffy · 04/09/2026 07:53

KatiePricesKnickers · 04/09/2026 07:34

Fair bit of thread derailing going on now.

The context is the cost of living / affordability. It's not a derail.

SapphireCasino · 04/09/2026 08:27

KatiePricesKnickers · 04/09/2026 07:34

Fair bit of thread derailing going on now.

We do have occasional outbreaks of chat on this thread - I know we’re being policed but ….seriously?! it’s not a Harvard seminar!

EasternStandard · 04/09/2026 09:34

SapphireCasino · 04/09/2026 08:27

We do have occasional outbreaks of chat on this thread - I know we’re being policed but ….seriously?! it’s not a Harvard seminar!

Yes it’s fine, so much politics coming at us sometimes other stuff is nice.

autumncrumbling · 04/09/2026 10:18

Cold showers are supposed to be amazing for your health…I just can’t…but will we get there this winter? 😂

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 04/09/2026 10:37

DancingFerret · 04/09/2026 10:20

That’s a fantastic article. The analogy is perfect. We are seeing the political quackery - actually charlatanism - of Burnham’s pathetic but loudly trumpeted ‘policies’. Useless micro-nostrums in the face of massive economic sickness.

But it’s all theatre. He knows that what he’s doing is creating a cuddly Burnham brand and he’s hoping that when the real stuff comes and is painful he’ll be able ride it out as the ‘nice guy’. He’s wrong.

The only question now is how long it takes for the shit to rise up to his neck.

NoWordForFluffy · 04/09/2026 10:58

The only question now is how long it takes for the shit to rise up to his neck.

I give it weeks. Maximum time is the budget date.

Binnyforthewin · 04/09/2026 18:36

There is quite a contrast between the Reform conference focus on the first 100 days in government, and Burnhams casual first 50 days of hols and the mystery tour of the country (did anyone actually see him?).

SheepinWolfsdress · 05/09/2026 07:34

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 03/09/2026 23:11

Stinks. The sad fact is, though, that many of Farage’s voters are just angry small-minded people who he calculates, correctly, simply don’t care about party funding rules.

I’d predict that the effect of C4’s investigation will be to shrink Reform’s polling by a couple of points, probably temporarily, no more.

The £5m to him personally is different because everyone can understand and disapprove of someone on the make for himself. We’ll have to see what comes of the parliamentary enquiry. That could sink him.

Maybe some are small.minded angry people but I think many are also just fed up and disolusioned with the main parties who they don't see helping their lives and yet putting other people's needs first who have not been in the UK long.

I see this morning a group of 5 eu countries , Germany ,Denmark , netherlands and Austria ( can't remember the last one for anyone who thinks I cant count) have agreed to find a non EU county to send migrants to be processed and returned home.

Eg Rwanda .

SheepinWolfsdress · 05/09/2026 07:38

SapphireCasino · 04/09/2026 08:27

We do have occasional outbreaks of chat on this thread - I know we’re being policed but ….seriously?! it’s not a Harvard seminar!

Couldn't agree more sapphire ! Some people take MN way too seriously 😂its a chat forum.

CandidLurker · 05/09/2026 07:46

SheepinWolfsdress · 05/09/2026 07:34

Maybe some are small.minded angry people but I think many are also just fed up and disolusioned with the main parties who they don't see helping their lives and yet putting other people's needs first who have not been in the UK long.

I see this morning a group of 5 eu countries , Germany ,Denmark , netherlands and Austria ( can't remember the last one for anyone who thinks I cant count) have agreed to find a non EU county to send migrants to be processed and returned home.

Eg Rwanda .

It’s infuriating isn’t it? If we’d gone through with this 5 years ago we’d be in a completely different position now. The up front costs would have been over with and we wouldn’t have the ongoing costs of supporting the numbers we now have in the UK, along with all the social tensions that have been created. Also there was a deterrent effect. How many billion has been spent on hotels, and now HMO’’s etc.

strawberrybubblegum · 05/09/2026 07:58

I think the question is: how much more damage will the UK suffer in the remaining 3 years of Labour?

With Argentina kicking off about the Falklands as well, we desperately need Kemi at the helm as PM.

NancyThompson · 05/09/2026 08:10

Burnham going after log burners now, priorities!
Just ahead of a stormy winter as well with imminent rural power outages.

EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 08:16

SheepinWolfsdress · 05/09/2026 07:34

Maybe some are small.minded angry people but I think many are also just fed up and disolusioned with the main parties who they don't see helping their lives and yet putting other people's needs first who have not been in the UK long.

I see this morning a group of 5 eu countries , Germany ,Denmark , netherlands and Austria ( can't remember the last one for anyone who thinks I cant count) have agreed to find a non EU county to send migrants to be processed and returned home.

Eg Rwanda .

I bet. Starmer couldn’t wait to scrap it. And the drive from Labourites was immense.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 05/09/2026 08:28

SheepinWolfsdress · 05/09/2026 07:34

Maybe some are small.minded angry people but I think many are also just fed up and disolusioned with the main parties who they don't see helping their lives and yet putting other people's needs first who have not been in the UK long.

I see this morning a group of 5 eu countries , Germany ,Denmark , netherlands and Austria ( can't remember the last one for anyone who thinks I cant count) have agreed to find a non EU county to send migrants to be processed and returned home.

Eg Rwanda .

Yes, I was generalising, which can never be universally correct. Fair enough.

But I do think there are significant numbers of Reform voters who have swallowed Farage’s wild promises and have been gulled into thinking that he is the ‘only way’. Although he’s been around a long time Farage cultivates this myth of the messianic outsider. Which leads to an angry protectiveness towards Farage and Reform among its voters that you see in cults.

It’s a right-wing version of Labour or Green cultism. You can’t get a committed Labour or Green supporter to moderate their view on anything. They’ll never see nastiness, stupidity, venality or dishonesty in their party or their favoured politicians. And they’ll believe any old crap about their opponents.

TBH, I find Reform’s answers to the C4 programme more revealing than the programme itself. Some frank admissions of wrongdoing and statements of willingness to change would have been refreshing, but we just got obfuscation, minimising and excuses. They look like the guilty defendant in the dock who’s trying to pretend that they only burgled six houses because of a misunderstanding.

Even a Reform sympathiser like Aaron Banks has apparently said he’s bothered by the standard of governance of the party.

EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 08:47

This is a pretty big switch. Just looking up as @SheepinWolfsdresssays. Starmer raced to undo it.

On September 4, 2026, the interior and migration ministers of Denmark, Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, and Greece met in Copenhagen and finalized the next concrete steps to establish these offshore deportation centers

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