Thread 1 Burnham: Esperanza en cada Corazón

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Can't have all their day's political coverage focusing on a couple of sound blokes who want to make the country a more equitable place. They need a few grifting bell ends in there for balance.

Seriously? The northern accent comment is a joke, a joke made frequently by those of us in the north who are regularly patronised by others.

If you are struggling to understand a well spoken confident speaker, making relatively simple points, using clear language then the issue might not be his speaking but your understanding.

Jenrick was even more objectionable than normal too. What a vile man he is.

It was a joke but you’ve moved on to be condescending in a different way? Ok.
He was stilted and had odd pauses within sentences that broke the thread of his meaning. I didn’t like it. It had nothing that wasn’t already Labour policy and underway. It overpromised. It had no coherent vision that I could determine. I was disappointed.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-pm-says-government-can-bring-back-hope-to-britain-and-launches-drive-to-end-rough-sleeping-at-the-earliest-opportunity

I didn’t like it, is very different to I couldn’t understand it.

Not likening it is perfectly reasonable, not understanding the speech is worrying.

Please could we stop squabbling? These threads are supposed to be a bit of a safe space away from the aggression and negativity we have to deal with elsewhere.

Hard agree.

Definitely!

Yes let’s not the ties that bind us are still strong.

No fighting in the war room.

Thanks for the new thread.

I've been busy in the kitchen prepping some stuff for a social this evening, so missed all the speeches.

Some London tax in lieu of cat tax.

@PickAChew It made me laugh, which I definitely needed today, so thank you!

As @placemats said earlier, I’ve made my views clear. I’ll stop repeating them now, whatevere the provocation! We don’t have to agree.
I want him to do well.

"Burnham's first speech as PM - snap verdict
Andrew Sparrow
Andrew Sparrow
That was a short speech, and in many respects it was just an edited highlights version of the much longer and more substantial speech that Andy Burnham gave on Friday when he was elected Labour leader. But it contained two striking features.

First, there was a policy announcement, and it was a quite a brave one; ending rough sleeping. (See 1.02pm.)

Why is it brave? Because Burnham set the same target as mayor of Greater Manchester, and he did not achieve it. In fact, as the Mill in Manchester reported recently, rough sleeping in the city has been going up for the past four years. Burnham visited a homelessness centre early this morning and recorded a pooled TV interview which has just been played on Sky News. Asked why he was promising to end rough sleeping nationally when he could not do that in his own city, Burnham (who gave 15% of his salary as mayor to a fund to tackle homelessness) said that in Manchester numbers started going up again, after falling at first, partly because of events out of his control. He went on:

We ran a scheme called a bed every night. And we funded it through various different ways.

But we’d be the only place that was doing it. You won’t be able to get the numbers down if you’re the only place and people [from other cities] are coming to Manchester.

So it taught me that the only way is to do this together. Everybody pulling in the same direction, as we did in the pandemic because we did bring people inside in the pandemic.

Many politicians, confronted with a policy failure, move on to something else; on this, Burnham is doubling down.

Burnham has also discovered his inner Jeremy Corbyn. After he stepped down as Labour leader, Corbyn revealed that if he had won the 2017 election, he too would have ordered an end to rough sleeping on day one. This is an announcement by Burnham that will cheer idealists, progressives and Labour leftwingers in particular. And this may be helpful if those same people end up learning later today Shabana Mahmood will be chancellor.

The second striking feature was the tone. Burnham has just become PM. But he started not by celebrating his success, but with an admission of failure – the failure of his generation of politicians. (See 12.53pm.) It was not a gloomy speech, but it was one with a strong streak of humility and realism. That is probably what the nation wants, or at least needs."

Taken from here.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2026/jul/20/andy-burnham-new-prime-minister-pm-keir-starmer-labour-no-10-downing-street-speech-cabinet-uk-politics-latest-news-updates

A country as wealthy as Britain should consider rough sleeping an abomination.

People need to get their heads out of their collective arses about "benefits" and instead ask how come the UKs wealth has increased since 2019.

Hard agree, we all want the same thing, for the Labour Party to succeed. So we want Burnham to do well as PM.

Jesus. Now they’re interviewing Corbyn. 😱

I like the fact that he’s focusing on rough sleeping.

Tax from Amsterdam. Having a break and catching up with the news.

If these statements he made can be followed through the country will be in a much better place a happier healthier electorate does benefit all of us.
i bored you all before with this, I worked for many many years for a homeless charity we got people off the streets housed them in hostels then onto our supported housing schemes.
when Labour came into power in 1997 we had an enormous upturn in funding services across the boroughs was joined up we worked closely with addiction/MH services/education innovative programmes were supported we were well staffed had access to specialist rehabilitation units etc etc
when austerity started we were deliberately & cynically practically dismantled & homelessness figures soared.
I knew when that fecker Cameron started on about the “Big Society” they had no intention of our services remaining a priority.

Absolutely it should. But I imagine it’s impossible to completely eradicate it, so he’s handing the press a big stick to hit him with. And they are really good at making their own, so it’s not necessary to help them out.

Who the hell is PAYING for all of this? Have you seen how much debt this country is in?

His priorities are a massive concern given he didn’t even mention the economy or reassurance that this is even a priority.

I like AB but I don't like what he did to become PM. But I sure as hell am going to give him a chance to see what he does before forming any sort of opinion on him in his new role. God knows there's going to be enough shit thrown at him from all directions and I sincerely hope he's going to able to deal with it. We, as a country, need stability and some hope for a better future.

It was a brief speech accepting the job and saying what he’ll do first. He can’t mention everything.