Preston Davey- sentences. Content warning - concerns CSA. (added my MNHQ)

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Preston Davey - whole life term for murderer and 25 years for the partner.
Let’s hope and pray yet again things change so no more poor babies and children die.

Yes a right weirdo and drama queen

Do these people never think about the consequences of their actions or are they too stupid and porn addled? How long did they think they would get away with this and what did they think would happen as a result?
Just thinking about consequences makes me not want to even get done for speedi

I can't get my head around this either. Their actions were a one way trip to the segregation wing on a prison. Even if the lad didn't die (say) the 9th time the lad went to casualty questions would be asked and answers quickly found.

What end game did they have in mind? I guess the answer is they lived for the moment amd gave the future no thought at all.

I also think Varley was a mummy's boy narcissist self-pitying whingebag.

Me too. One of the most chillingly evil people in the country but also comedically pathetic. Not how I imagine a monster at all, which makes it even more frightening.

Please sign my petition to have mandated body injury mapping to children who present at a&e with fractures. This won’t help Preston now, but it will help others. Please don’t look away, please sign and share

www.change.org/injurymapping

If Doctors have to look at children's bums every time they have a fracture, won't all the Peados get jobs as Doctors? Feels like that rule will offer endless new excuses for abuse rather than reducing it.

Doctors need to have a colleague supervising them doing intimate procedures on children.
And I don’t think it’s the easiest job to qualify in.

I think the proposal is a good idea for children who are too young to speak about what caused their injury.

As I said previously, they both achieved significant success quite quickly, so I would guess they figured they could wing it whatever situation they found themselves it. Must have been a nasty shock to them that they could not get away with it.

https://www.change.org/injurymapping

please sign this petition to mandate injury body mapping for children who attend a&e with an injury. Hopefully this would be part of a bigger law eventually. It won’t help preston now but it would help other children.

And they were still maintaining their innocence through the court case. JV was denying the sexual abuse despite a mountain of evidence. I'm glad he'll never be free.

I find the comment he made about people thinking he was abusing Preston after taking him to A&E with a fractured elbow interesting. Was he telling on himself there, or maybe he thought it he said that it would deflect concern? Who bloody knows. Most people wouldn't 'joke' about that kind of thing.

I hold as much contempt for JMF and wish he'd got a longer sentence. Hopefully it will be reviewed. The news the other day said he'd be spending a minimum of 25 years in prison and that's not the case. Although I assume he'd be put on the sex offenders register if he makes it out of prison alive.

A flippant thought, but I wouldn't have pissed off a woman who'd murdered someone as a 14 year old, and who said she'll never forgive that pair of reprobates. If he gets out of prison he might not last long.

I hold as much contempt for JMF and wish he'd got a longer sentence. Hopefully it will be reviewed. The news the other day said he'd be spending a minimum of 25 years in prison and that's not the case. Although I assume he'd be put on the sex offenders register if he makes it out of prison alive.

He should have got Life with a minimum tariff of 25 years. That way he would have served at least 25 years. As it is he’ll be eligible for parole in 16/17 years time. He won’t neccesarily be granted it, but he can apply. He was as culpable of the torture and abuse of Preston as the other one. Yes, he was at work much of the time, and he might not have caused the fatal injury, but he absolutely knew what Varley was doing and participated in the abuse whenever he was around. His semen was found on the cot rails.
I don’t think it’s a matter of numbers - one request can trigger a sentence review - but if any member of the public wants to make a request, it’s very easy if you google ‘sentence review’. The more requests there are, the more good reasons for a review, which might have been missed by some, could get picked up by others.

@maudelovesharold he's never getting out either.
This case will live in the public conscience for decades to come.

@maudelovesharold Indeed. He only got convicted of one count of sexual abuse, but I doubt very much he only did so once.

https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review

Sharing the link if anyone wants to fill in the form. I did so the other night after another poster mentioned it. (Might have been you. I can't remember!)

Thanks for putting the link. It probably was me - I’ve posted about it several times on different threads.

You're welcome, and yes it was, I just looked.

@TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul Bloody hope not. And yes it will, sadly, but I don't want people to forget about it either.

I think the sleep deprivation issue is that it can lead to really bad anger which triggers before someone can control it. I have no doubt they would have been horrendous parents - abusive in every way, even if he had slept through the night every night, but sleep deprivation might have made them even more reactive and less able to hide their true motives for long.

I agree about porn ban. It fuels really horrible fantasies and dehumanises others in pursuit of sexual gratification.

No, this is highly inappropriate. My 9 year old broke her arm last year, not the first time but I could easily imagine so would refuse to go to hospital if it meant she had to then have an intimate and unnecessary examination.

I’m sure you make a fair point re: sleep deprivation and anger, but why then, deliberately frighten Preston by waking him up when he was asleep by shouting ‘Boo!’ At him? You don’t do that out of anger if you’re sleep deprived. That’s the last thing you would do. You’d be tiptoeing your way to bed, not videoing your psychological torture of a 13 month old. I don’t buy it. I think that was all set up to try and ‘justify’ some of the rough handling of Preston, if it were ever questioned. The Judge seemed to buy it, however. You can see how they might pull the wool over everyone else’s eyes.

Well, Varley's sister was/is a baby sleep trainer. Some sleep trainers suggest you should keep babies awake if they drop off at inconvenient times, so they then sleep to your schedule. Maybe this was his narcissistic, sadistic interpretation of that sort of advice.

I don’t believe anyone rapes a baby to death because he “isn’t coping” .
They had only had this poor baby for a matter of months. They are clearly men who enjoy sexually abusing babies and inflicting pain and violence on tiny, totally helpless infants. That is not the same as someone ‘not coping’ !!!!

Absolutely agree with this.

Because they're evil bastards. I've never woken DS up deliberately (getting him out of his car seat being the exception) no matter how inconvenient to me. He fell asleep in his buggy on the way home from the shop last week, and I gently put him in a more comfortable position (his head was resting on the buggy bar) and left him to it.

Funnily enough I managed sleep deprivation as a single mum (with autism) without murdering my baby (not getting enough sleep is one of the things I struggled with even before DS arrived.) And Preston's foster parents managed to not hurt him, despite his foster mum saying he was the worst sleeper they'd ever had (and that he'd settle down when she stroked his hair. 🥺)

JV said Preston was 'dead meat' after the first night living with them. That's not normal. (We see you, JV.) I don't buy it. If he was struggling he should have done something about it, not torture a baby to death. (Although I reckon that was the plan, minus Preston not surviving what they did to him.) Hell isn't hot enough for them.

I agree.

You are absolutely right. I was trying to understand (never to excuse) how sleep deprivation might have exacerbated the situation but the more I learn about what the did, the clearer it is that this had nothing to do with what happened.