Preston Davey- sentences. Content warning - concerns CSA. (added my MNHQ)

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Preston Davey - whole life term for murderer and 25 years for the partner.
Let’s hope and pray yet again things change so no more poor babies and children die.

Ditto. I hope they’re brutalised daily. I hope they spend each day in pain/fear of pain. And that they live a long, long time.

I've reached a stage where I can understand how those two men got to be like how they are. I grew up in a very abusive home and I did a huge amount of healing and research. Those men were more than likely - severelyabused themselves as children. This hardens people and makes them become cruel.

I think they were just filthy fucking deviants tbh. Anything else is just excuses. I also think Varley was a mummy's boy narcissist self-pitying whingebag.

I agree. It was always going to be hard growing up to learn your mother was a murderer.

I can't understand why, when there were so many chances to stop this abuse, he was returned over and over.

Not if you read the report of the injuries unfortunately. But it was the "only oral" that choked him to death, yes.

I wonder what how his students are feeling now?

So two men are surely a bigger risk than one man and one woman? Or two women?

I’d be looking at the head who promoted him so quickly as well.

But he was ADMITTED to hospital twice in the preceding weeks. Surely, at some point during his time in hospital, a nurse removed his nappy.

And what about Varley’s mother? She looked after the baby on the morning of the day he died. Surely she changed his nappy during that time.

The injuries described must have caused significant external damage. Why did no one see them? It doesn’t make sense.

Eh

Men. A man. Males. Split hairs if you will. Quote me if you want. A baby died a horrendous death. Once again it was male perpetrators.

People aren't deliberately negligent, largely. Lessons do need to be learned but they need to be learned in a constructive way - this isn't about individual blame, it's about systemic and corporate learning.

For example, until Baby Peter died, I would imagine that most social workers wouldn't be bothered by smears of sudocream or chocolate on a baby's/toddler's face when they visited. Now, every social worker is trained to ask the parent to clean the child's face.

They need to change policy that if any member of staff raises concern about injuries, they consider them to be as a result of NAI untill a senior clinician determines otherwise.

Different, but similar - I wasn't allowed to leave the hospital immediately after giving birth because the midwife thought my DD looked like she had Down Syndrome. The senior reg was held up, so I had to wait. He came and dismissed it saying 'she's just been down a birth canal, we'll forgive her a squashed nose.' The midwife was right (in a sense). DD1 doesn't have DS but she does have an as yet unidentified genetic syndrome which has caused severe disability and at age 20 DD1 still can't be left at home alone or leave the house unattended. The midwife saw something which triggered a suspicion and although she linked it to what she knew and it wasn't exactly right, she had picked up what her brain was saying, that something wasn't quite right.

Your ‘this is disgusting/outrageous!’ Tactic isnt working. Look inwards.

Maybe with non-verbal children they should, as a matter of course, like taking a temperature.

The carefully cultivated veneer of respectability and trustworthiness reminds me of the vile Zulocks. All so great superficially and who’d dare to say otherwise, but they were disgusting, sickening, evil monsters once they were behind closed doors with their two adopted sons:

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I do think that some professionals might have been reluctant to be accused of homophobia. Especially without absolute concrete evidence of abuse.

I grew up in Rotherham and saw first hand how gladly some men will use any layer of protection they can utilise to be able to abuse children. I’ve also seen how reluctant professionals are to question them if the perpetrators have a demographic they can hide behind.

It’s a real problem. We don’t want gay men to face homophobia by professionals, but we also don’t want that to shape how we safeguard.

My son wouldn’t let someone take his temperature. He’s a non-verbal 9 year old.

We’ve been to A&E 4 times since February.

Two sprained ankles, suspected fits (twice), and a very deep chin wound.

At no point have social services rang us to check in, and they also have managed to do very little apart from observe him, as he strongly resists either checks or treatment.

You’d assume that they’d be more concerned about the repeated visits, but I can tell you they’re not.

I think there is also a knock on effect of former notes. So if one doctor has thought its not concerning, the following one is more likely to as well.

I didn’t know about the Zulocks. How horrific. At least neither of them will ever regain their freedom. Fazakerley will be eligible for parole in 16/17 years. I cannot understand why he was dealt with so leniently when he was a co-perpetrator in the repeated abuse, rape and eventual murder of a baby. His semen was on the cot rails. He should have been given a life sentence too. I’ve requested a sentence review, as any member of the public can.

@maudelovesharold Thanks for reminding me about that, I've just asked for a sentence review as well.

Might as well do something while I'm awake as what those two bastards did is keeping me up at night.

What is it in particular you would like me to reflect on, exactly?
I have my opinion and I stand by my opinion.
Ok!

Fazakerley will be eligible for parole in 16/17 years. He should have been given a life sentence too.

Agree and that option was open to the judge. 25 years is a good solid sentence, but not as a determinate sentence. It should have been a life sentence with a minimum of 25 years, not a 25 year determinate sentence.

I think the one thing we can be pleased about is a) He's unlikely to survive the 16 years and b) Given the MO he will never reoffend. He won't adopt again and he won't be given access to babies or children again.

I think the judge had a public duty to mete out the heaviest sentence possible and in that respect failed to do so in fazackerlys case.

Also, the whole ‘the couple were overwhelmed by sleep deprivation’ narrative which has been trotted out, even by the judge, is a load of bollocks. One of the ways the couple psychologically tortured him (and videod it) was to wake him up when he was asleep by shouting ‘boo!’ at the poor child. Apart from being intrinsically twisted, no parent on earth would deliberately wake a sleeping baby if they were sleep deprived.

Also, the whole ‘the couple were overwhelmed by sleep deprivation’ narrative which has been trotted out, even by the judge

I find that aspect of this utterly incomprehensible. So the judge thinks this couple were a) Sexually attracted to a baby and b) abusing him due to sleep deprived anger.

Seems utterly implausible that they were terribly harming the boy in two different ways with two completely unrelated motives. I'm sure they were willing to harm the lad in all kinds of ways but the primary motive here was very obviously sexual.

They were not severely abused far from it. You shouldn't say these things and even if they were it doesn't make it right what they did .