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War (crimes) and Peace (prizes) - Trump Thread #151

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Spandauer · 10/12/2025 21:07

Don Snoreleone trying to stay awake long enough to bring all his racist dreams to fruition. So when can we bring about his personal "civilisational erasure”?

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War (crimes) and Peace (prizes) - Trump Thread #151
War (crimes) and Peace (prizes) - Trump Thread #151
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placemats · 07/01/2026 22:47

What Trump said.

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walllaw · 07/01/2026 22:48

PBS News: The Trump administration plans to put money raised from seizure of Venezuelan oil into bank accounts outside the U.S. Treasury -- they told lawmakers today per multiple sources familiar. Sources said they understood these as similar or decidedly "off-shore" accounts.

TokyoSushi · 07/01/2026 23:08

What on Earth is going on here? It’s like Trump’s New Year’s resolution has been to cause maximum chaos, and my goodness he’s going for it, literally hour by hour. I’m going to bed, I dread to think what will have happened by morning.

Serpentstooth · 08/01/2026 11:23

He's going for full World 🤴 before he keels over. Be afraid.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 08/01/2026 11:27

As Heather Cox Richardson wrote last night, bonkers, but can you actually say this surprises you?

"Today has been bonkers, and tonight's letter will reflect that. But while we are copyediting that letter, I want to call out something in it, toward the end, that I don't want to have overawed by everything else that's happened today. It's this:
"Today, Energy Secretary Chris Wright told an audience at a Goldman Sachs energy industry event in Miami, Florida, that the United States will take control of all oil from Venezuela for the foreseeable future. Lisa Desjardins and Nick Schifrin of PBS Newshour reported this afternoon that Trump administration officials have told lawmakers that they plan to put the money raised from their seizure of Venezuelan oil into bank accounts outside the U.S. Treasury. Desjardins clarified that '[s]ources said they understood these as similar [to] or decidedly "off-shore" accounts.'
Yesterday, Trump announced that, as president of the United States, he would control the money from the sale of Venezuelan oil."
I'll put the sources for this paragraph in the comments.
This note is not tonight's letter, which should be forthcoming before midnight (I hope!). But this information— which sure looks like Trump just announced he was planning to take control of Venezuela's oil personally and is planning to stash the cash in off-shore accounts— jumped out at me, and I wanted to make sure people didn't lose it in under the weight of today's other crushing news."

SerendipityJane · 08/01/2026 11:29

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 08/01/2026 11:27

As Heather Cox Richardson wrote last night, bonkers, but can you actually say this surprises you?

"Today has been bonkers, and tonight's letter will reflect that. But while we are copyediting that letter, I want to call out something in it, toward the end, that I don't want to have overawed by everything else that's happened today. It's this:
"Today, Energy Secretary Chris Wright told an audience at a Goldman Sachs energy industry event in Miami, Florida, that the United States will take control of all oil from Venezuela for the foreseeable future. Lisa Desjardins and Nick Schifrin of PBS Newshour reported this afternoon that Trump administration officials have told lawmakers that they plan to put the money raised from their seizure of Venezuelan oil into bank accounts outside the U.S. Treasury. Desjardins clarified that '[s]ources said they understood these as similar [to] or decidedly "off-shore" accounts.'
Yesterday, Trump announced that, as president of the United States, he would control the money from the sale of Venezuelan oil."
I'll put the sources for this paragraph in the comments.
This note is not tonight's letter, which should be forthcoming before midnight (I hope!). But this information— which sure looks like Trump just announced he was planning to take control of Venezuela's oil personally and is planning to stash the cash in off-shore accounts— jumped out at me, and I wanted to make sure people didn't lose it in under the weight of today's other crushing news."

Time to troll Americans again and remind them that congress is an irrelevance

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 08/01/2026 11:51

He really is doing his best to distract from those Epstein files at the moment:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp80ln97py5o

(Apologies if someone has already posted about this, if so, I missed it.)

US President Donald Trump, wearing a blue suit and red tie, points with his finger in front of an American flag.

Trump withdraws US from key climate treaty and dozens of other groups

The White House says the decision was taken because those entities "no longer serve American interests".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp80ln97py5o

Spandauer · 08/01/2026 12:40

The NYT analysis of the video footage of the murder of Renee Good is utterly chilling and shows quite clearly that no agent was being run over or threatened.

ICE agents' behaviour is escalating like it's the fecking Wild West.

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Errolwasahero · 08/01/2026 12:43

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom did I also read in her letter that the grifting coin company his sons run has applied to become a proper bank? Now, why on earth could that possibly be? 🤨

YankTank · 08/01/2026 12:49

Thank GOD there was a bystander in Minneapolis filming. (Not that anyone will be held accountable, but still…)

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 08/01/2026 13:16

YankTank · 08/01/2026 12:49

Thank GOD there was a bystander in Minneapolis filming. (Not that anyone will be held accountable, but still…)

And yet, the orange bastard and that woman blatantly disregard the evidence of their own eyes and lie about the event. This proves it, he could shoot someone innocent for no reason in broad daylight on 5th Avenue, with hundreds of witnesses, and get away with it.

YankTank · 08/01/2026 13:18

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 08/01/2026 13:16

And yet, the orange bastard and that woman blatantly disregard the evidence of their own eyes and lie about the event. This proves it, he could shoot someone innocent for no reason in broad daylight on 5th Avenue, with hundreds of witnesses, and get away with it.

I know. We can see it with our own eyes, yet they deny. But if there was no video, everyone (not just the MAGA lunatics) would believe the story.

walllaw · 08/01/2026 13:22

The other thread on this, watching posters excuse it, is a real mindfuck. I guess the consolation is that it doesn't seem to be the majority.

@Spandauer Yes, that NYT analysis makes it pretty black and white.

BustingBaoBun · 08/01/2026 13:24

The other thread on this, watching posters excuse it, is a real mindfuck. I guess the consolation is that it doesn't seem to be the majority.
I had to stop reading it. It was absolutely awful

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 08/01/2026 14:48

Hmm.

War (crimes) and Peace (prizes) - Trump Thread #151
CaveMum · 08/01/2026 15:08

There’s something big circling our village near the US air bases. I’ve checked Flight Radar and it’s not showing up, suggesting they don’t want to be tracked.

Annoying the heck out of me, droning on while I’m working!

Lalgarh · 08/01/2026 15:31

It's quite grey and drizzling but can you see it? I'm assuming not

walllaw · 08/01/2026 15:54

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 08/01/2026 14:48

Hmm.

Yes, Mark Elias and Ian Bassin called this right after the invasion. Their theory is that one of the things Dulcy Rodriguez will have agreed to is to lie and say they interfered in 2020 in exchange for being left in place.

AcrossthePond55 · 08/01/2026 16:00

Today is supposed to be the vote in the Senate to limit Trump's ability to intervene 'militarily' any further in Venezuela without Congress' express OK (as is clearly stated in the Constitution). This will be a 'simple majority' vote. I think they'd need 11 or 12 to cross the aisle.

If it passes, it will have to go to the House for a vote (not today). Right now we're GOP 218 - Dem 213 so only 3 need to cross the aisle. This will also be a simple majority vote.

Even if it passes both, Scrotus will be able to veto it. Then it would require 2/3 majority in both houses to override his veto.

www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-senate-expected-to-vote-on-war-powers-resolution-to-limit-trump-after-venezuela-raid

SerendipityJane · 08/01/2026 16:02

Congress is an irrelevance.

SerendipityJane · 08/01/2026 16:03

Seen on reddit

War (crimes) and Peace (prizes) - Trump Thread #151
DuncinToffee · 08/01/2026 16:40

"The FBI is blocking Minnesota state investigators from accessing any evidence related to the killing of a woman by a US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent in Minneapolis... solely allowing the FBI to investigate"

From the administration that is hiding/redacting most of the Epstein files...

SerendipityJane · 08/01/2026 16:46

DuncinToffee · 08/01/2026 16:40

"The FBI is blocking Minnesota state investigators from accessing any evidence related to the killing of a woman by a US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent in Minneapolis... solely allowing the FBI to investigate"

From the administration that is hiding/redacting most of the Epstein files...

Federal agents breaking the law is a long tradition when it comes to inconvenient corpses - check our what happened to JFK ....

SerendipityJane · 08/01/2026 16:51

SCOTUS decisins due tomorrow 10:00 EST

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