Thread 18, Big Dog Halloween Edition

[DuncinToffee]

Previous thread www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4658316-thread-17-big-dog-returns

Thanks Duncin. Who'd have thought we'd still be trapped under this omnishambles.

We will be at thread 20 before we know if big dog has been sent to kennels or not at this rate. It's awful we've nearly managed 20,000 posts of the subject 🫣

Thanks for the new thread.
Re PM talking about their manifesto- they've actively whipped their own MPs to vote against it so that boats long sailed.

Can we have a reference to Black Shuck the Demon Dog next time? 😀

'Big Dog: the nightmare continues'

Thanks for the new thread.

And halloween edition is a good summary.

He's like a reoccurring nightmare!

Thanks Duncin

Well I guess in the next 24 hours we’ll know one way or the other. Perhaps even today.

Shambles doesn’t even come close to describing it now.

Well it seems boris won’t declare till tomorrow morning,,,

Strap in, folks.
It's gonna be a bumpy ride...

From the Sun's political editor:

Spoken to other senior ministers who claim they have told Johnson camp they are with them but are refusing to go public until they are sure there’s not going to be a deal. Lack of trust even amongst supporters is not great…

So maybe Johnson does have his hundred 😕

Thanks for the new thread - the never ending saga!

Now that Rishi has declared it seems a deal is very unlikely.,,

Well, I guess we'll now see what crawls out of the woodwork to support Johnson.

I think if it goes to the party membership he'll win and he'll be back in No 10.

The only good thing about Sunak is he will probably call in the bailiffs to remove Johnson from Chequers.

I'm thinking that maybe Rishi will be the only one to get 100 plus and therefore could be PM tomorrow without having to go to the members.

That would at least be fun.

He's still in Chequers

How did I miss that and ...... well ...... just how?

Is he still there then?

I think Johnson will get 100.
But I think Sunak will be much more - maybe 180-200.

The members vote in Johnson but the party will be totally ungovernable before the Privileges Committee even begin sitting. Then more sordid details come out and they spiral once again.

It's going to be a terrible mess.

I think we might fill another thread before 🎃!

I think Jonson will get to a hundred too. Very much hoping to be proved wrong though.

Johnson will drag them back through the mire.

We've lost so much time to scandals and the resulting attempts to cover them up (often as bad as the actual offences). I could scream.

Sanguine message from a Tory insider on where it all goes from here.

“We’re going to crash.

“If Boris gets to Xmas we can have an election in May.

“Other two (Sunak and Mordaunt) will be in equally beautiful trouble without a mandate.

“We’re fucked.”

The person who was in touch reliable on this stuff (never let me down), says Johnson will get to 100 - (so not there yet). Sunak - they think - will land at 170-180.

https://twitter.com/theousherwood/status/1584141691933446144?s=46&t=A6Gbx6Jaee_pQNynYLHSYg

I was being slightly tongue in cheek as last I heard he was, but I confess that was a rumour I heard on mnet so may not be accurate.

Thanks @DuncinToffee

I still think you should have gone with my suggestion of Big Dog returning to his vomit.
If he gets in he'll drown them all in it.

Apt thread title because it is certainly a scary time...