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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) I have noticed here

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heresyandwitchcraft · 14/08/2018 17:21

Hello! Are you new? I am still pretty new, myself. Mumsnet can be hard to navigate.
Here are some commonly asked questions I’ve seen asked on the feminist board, with links to threads. Please have a look at these, as many of the regular posters will have likely covered your question in-depth before. I am hoping they don't mind me creating another basic FAQ, that can hopefully be added-to. Remember that this board is not a monolith (even though it might appear to be such), although the majority of posters do seem to have a clearly gender-critical slant, where feminism is centered around biological females. Centering females is also known as radical feminism - because the radical part refers to going back to the "root" of female oppression (which in such feminist theory is the female body).
These FAQs will be heavily related to the "transgender debate" because that is a hot topic right now.

What is the definition of "trans" that is typically used in this forum?
It is Stonewall's:
An umbrella term to describe people whose gender is not the same as, or does not sit comfortably with, the sex they were assigned at birth.
Trans people may describe themselves using one or more of a wide variety of terms, including (but not limited to) transgender, transsexual, gender-queer (GQ), gender-fluid, non-binary, gender-variant, crossdresser, genderless, agender, nongender, third gender, two-spirit, bi-gender, trans man, trans woman,trans masculine, trans feminine and neutrois.
www.stonewall.org.uk/help-advice/glossary-terms#t

You will notice that it does not specify only individuals who have gender dysphoria (discomfort with their own body/sex), but includes cross-dressers and those whose feelings are fluid. This is different from the classical term "transsexual," which refers to people with a medical condition named "gender dysphoria," which can only be alleviated by permanently inhabiting the social role of the opposite sex and potentially undergoing medication and surgery in order to achieve this. So the current trans umbrella has been significantly widened and now includes people who have no discomfort with their bodies but simply "identify as" another gender.

It is worth remembering that the definition of "transitioning" now is also very loose. Stonewall defines it like this:
The steps a trans person may take to live in the gender with which they identify. Each person’s transition will involve different things. For some this involves medical intervention, such as hormone therapy and surgeries, but not all trans people want or are able to have this. Transitioning also might involve things such as telling friends and family, dressing differently and changing official documents.

So there is no set definition for transitioning. This could be as simple as wearing a different set of clothes, changing one's name or pronoun.

Under these definitions, the following people are to be considered fully women, just like any female:
Danielle Muscato:
www.daniellemuscato.com/
Ibi-Pippi Hedegaard:

Alex Drummond (who identifies as Lesbian and is on the Trans advisory panel of Stonewall): www.stonewall.org.uk/trans-advisory-group www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3275432-Why-does-Stonewalls-definition-of-Transgender-trump-all-others-and-does-it-really

Material that serves a useful place to start to understand the gender-critical feminist perspective:
Rebecca Reilly-Cooper
sexandgenderintro.com/
Kathleen Stock
medium.com/@kathleenstock
Magdalen Berns
www.youtube.com/channel/UCvTTakI97sQ4SkMnsH8r0qQ
SAGES Fact-sheet
sages.org.uk/publications/sages-factsheet.html

What is up with the “transgender debate,” why are feminists protesting?
START HERE: “Break it down for me” is a very good introduction (best I have seen) with plenty of links to other beginner’s resources
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me
A short and snappy summary by Datun
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3175666-Want-to-know-why-women-are-livid-trans-thread?pg=1
“A Beginners guide to the transgender debate” is EXCELLENT, with signposting to a whole bunch of relevant material covering specific subjects (I have basically shamelessly ripped off that post - sorry DJ)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3246322-A-Beginners-Guide-to-the-Transgender-Debate-A-Signpost-to-Useful-Mumsnet-Threads?pg=1

What are some female-rights organisations that are looking into this issue?
fairplayforwomen.com/
womansplaceuk.org/
manfridayuk.org/

“Trans women are women”? Why is self-ID into the category “woman” so troublesome for some feminists?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3122473--Transwomen-are-women
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3170708-If-youre-pro-Self-ID-for-trans-people-please-could-you-explain-it-to-me?pg=1
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3297719-self-ID-sinnlos

Why do women care about the definition of woman?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3296831-Can-we-talk-about-the-mental-impact-of-being-told-the-definition-of-woman-is-changing

People with cervixes – why are women protesting against dropping the word “woman” to refer to female anatomy in public health?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3277806-Cancer-Research-anyone-with-a-cervix

What’s the issue with “cis”?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3323848-Could-we-reclaim-cis

Why is “TERF” considered a slur?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3330245-Abuse-of-GC-women-on-twitter-be-warned-graphic-disturbing
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3330285-Woke-guy-that-did-that-terfs-are-trash-song-accused-of-sex-crimes
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3040706-TERF-isnt-just-a-slur-its-hate-speech
terfisaslur.com/
The “science of gender identity”?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3331998-The-science-of-transgender-gender-identity?pg=1

A discussion on misgendering:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3334275-Misgendering

Why is the argument “trans women are women, just like black women” considered to be so offensive?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3326391-Why-do-TRAs-keep-using-black-women-when-defending-TWAW

“Don’t most feminists support trans people?”
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3327679-vast-majority-of-feminists-trans
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3327466-People-apparently-support-trans?pg=1&messages=25

What about intersex?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3305291-Trans-activsims-appropriation-of-intersex

Why the fixation on toilets?
A perennial favourite. This subject has been discussed multiple times.
Here are some relevant threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3330297-Museum-of-London-why-female-only-toilets-were-so-important
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3322488-GRC-and-Toilets?pg=1
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3329936-teen-films-girl-in-toilet

What about women’s prisons?
Fair Play for Women: fairplayforwomen.com/prisons/

Recent threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3334473-BBC-reality-check-on-trans-prisoners
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3309758-This-never-happens-male-offenders-in-female-prisons

What about women’s shelters?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3158576-Women-s-Aid-considers-employing-self-declared-transwomen-i-e-men-in-womens-shelters
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3325247-Stonewall-report-into-domestic-and-violent-services

What about transgender children?
The first port of call should be:
gids.nhs.uk/
A gender-critical parent view is represented by:
www.transgendertrend.com/

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3265524-Transgender-Trend-Crowdfunder-suspended?pg=1
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3317880-Parents-who-wont-affirm-8-yr-old-gender-change-being-referred-to-social-services
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3280972-Rapid-Onset-of-Gender-Dysphoria-in-Adolescents-and-Young-Adults-a-Descriptive-Study
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3318996-Excellent-counter-view-to-ROGD

Why are lesbians protesting?
Magdalen on "Are Genital Preferences Transphobic?"

Trans activism and the lesbian community www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3146166-Transactivism-and-the-lesbian-community

London Pride 2018 protests: Get the L Out
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3301033-Get-the-L-Out-Statement-by-the-lesbian-protesters-at-Pride-London

An introduction to the “cotton ceiling”
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3294339-cotton-ceiling-evidence-thread

What about women’s sports?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3324477-Transwomen-in-sport-I-need-sources-re-their-advantage

What's going on with the Girl Guides?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2832114-This-puts-me-off-Girl-Guides
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3314566-another-girlguiding-update

What is the difference between transsexuals and the current understanding of transgender ideology? Why are some trans people against the ideas being espoused by some trans activists?
Rose of Dawn
www.youtube.com/user/AshleeK9
Debbie Hayton
debbiehayton.wordpress.com/
Miranda Yardley
mirandayardley.com/en/

What are the protected categories in the Equality Act?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3327711-Has-Transgender-replaced-Gender-Reassignment-in-protected-characteristics-of-Equality-Act

Why is self-ID/reform of the Gender Recognition Act considered controversial?
fairplayforwomen.com/full_guide/
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3188687-impact-of-self-id-on-equality-act
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3198512-Help-me-be-clear-about-the-GRA-Equality-Act-Exemptions

What can I do if I am concerned about this issue?
Links to consultations
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3318003-Bringing-your-MUST-DO-WOMENS-RIGHTS-consultations-together-with-links-and-timelines-thread
Other actions
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3329362-Get-offline

Why are women protesting self-identifying trans women taking places on all-women’s shortlists?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3136891-Transwomen-should-be-considered-for-all-women-shortlist-Guardian
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3329447-People-Who-Oppose-Trans-Rights-Have-No-Place-In-Labour-Says-The-First-LGBT-Mayoral-Adviser?pg=1

How has the gender debate evolved, from the gender-critical perspective?
This “Greatest hits” thread is illustrative
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3318916-Gender-Critical-Greatest-Hits
Also this:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3317032-Using-women-as-human-shields
And a discussion around the silencing of gender-critical voices
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3273966-Twitter-banning-accounts-that-deadname-Ian-Huntley-is-not-using-his-female-name-hate-speech-now
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3262965-Good-article-today-BBC-on-the-twitter-ban-on-womens-free-speech-on-trans-issues?pg=1

“Feminism is about equality” or the related “Is feminism for men?”
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3331306-Feminism-is-equality
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3332894-Can-a-man-teach-feminism

Are we evil?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3301684-Are-we-the-baddies

Are you alone in your gender-critical thoughts?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3291425-Gender-Critical-Lurkers
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3277047-I-am-S-p-a-r-t-a-c-u-s

Are you affected by marital difficulties related to trans issues?
You’re not alone
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3101834-trans-widows-escape-committee

Who is Jess Bradley and why is this individual important?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3320513-Jess-Bradley-first-transgender-student-officer-suspended-after-flashing-photos
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3321764-Jess-Bradley-suspended-Part-II
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3325623-Jess-Bradley-a-government-advisor-on-womens-rights-suspended-by-NUS-over-indecent-blog-Part-iii
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3323623-Who-is-really-funding-Jess-Bradleys-defence

What are some of the theories about the funding of the trans activist movement?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3328210-Follow-the-money-who-is-funding-the-US-transborg

Why is the feminist board so careful?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3321127-public-service-announcement

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heresyandwitchcraft · 01/01/2019 10:12

We CAN’T consent to this!!! All the “sex games gone wrong” defences, where women have been slaughtered by men
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3459232-We-Cant-Consent-to-This-all-the-sex-game-gone-wrong-defences

Prostitution, pornography, surrogacy
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3463636-prostitution-pornography-surrogacy

A letter to the TERFs?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3112123-A-letter-to-the-TERFs

Theres a very significant video making the rounds... how do you react to “misgendering”?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3462561-Weve-all-seen-this-video-right
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3462542-misgendered-and-violent

Although sharing the views of women on here, the OP doesn’t think she can call herself a radical feminist
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3462656-Although-sharing-the-views-of-women-here-I-dont-think-I-can-be-a-radical-feminist

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heresyandwitchcraft · 28/12/2018 15:24

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Yeahnahyeah · 24/12/2018 18:15
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Yeahnahyeah · 19/12/2018 23:40
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AnyFucker · 18/12/2018 20:14

How did I miss this ? Confused

heresyandwitchcraft · 18/12/2018 20:10

A trans woman (male who identifies as a woman) was asked to leave a woman’s changing facility at a gym
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3454532-A-Trans-Woman-Was-Asked-To-Leave-The-Womens-Changing-Room-At-A-PureGym

Recording of Mermaids training
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3454658-recording-of-mermaids-training

First successful injunction against misgendering?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3454675-First-successful-injunction-against-misgendering-in-English-legal-history

There will be a gender question in the 2021 census
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3454373-There-will-be-a-gender-question-in-the-2021-census

Boys can have periods... The Times
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3453358-Boys-can-have-periods-The-Times

Rachel McKinnon on Radio 5
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3454291-Rachel-McKinnon-on-Radio-Five-Live

Commercial Surrogacy
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3454463-So-upset-by-commercial-surrogacy

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heresyandwitchcraft · 16/12/2018 17:07

I believe I’m proof no man can truly become a woman
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3450980-DM-I-believe-Im-proof-no-man-can-truly-become-a-woman

Why my son doesn’t want self-ID
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3448102-why-my-transgender-son-dosent-want-self-id

Mermaids given half a million pounds by National Lottery.......
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3452489-Mermaids-given-500-000-by-National-Lottery-Sunday-Times

Open letter to IOC
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3450349-Open-Letter-to-The-IOC-regarding-transwoman-Tiffany-Abreu

Jessica Eaton about the language used when talking about sex
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3253264-Very-good-article-by-Jessica-Eaton-about-language-used-to-describe-sex

FWR Annual Awards?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3452592-FWR-Annual-Awards-Can-we-have-some

Period poverty/bleeders
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3447687-Period-poverty-bleeders

Investigations to keep an eye on
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3451336-Investigations-to-keep-an-eye-on

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heresyandwitchcraft · 13/12/2018 21:38

Thanks for bumping! Smile Glad to hear someone still finds it useful.

Heartbreaking thread about women being let down by the NHS
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3448330-Women-s-Health-please-share-stories-of-interactions-with-NHS-Dr-s

Queer theory resisters?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3450279-Queer-theory-resisters

Graham Linehan and Derrick Jensen on trans activism
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3448797-Glinner-and-Derrick-Jensen-discuss-transactivism

There are 6 different sexes? NO. TWO! TWO SEXES!!!!
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3448372-there-are-6-different-sexes

Trans Fact Checker
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3448982-Trans-Fact-Checker

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TalkingintheDark · 11/12/2018 22:29

I think it’s definitely worth bumping on a regular basis, Yeah! Especially when it’s clearly doing such good work.

Welcome to the coven Grin

LangCleg · 11/12/2018 22:26

Of course it is!

Yeahnahyeah · 11/12/2018 22:21

Bump. Is it ok for me to keep bumping so this stays on first page? It's just that this thread lead me from total ignorance a few weeks ago to angrily GC now. Or is it a bit annoying? Cheers.

Yeahnahyeah · 10/12/2018 05:15

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heresyandwitchcraft · 08/12/2018 20:31

Letter in the Lancet!
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3445603-letter-in-lancet

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heresyandwitchcraft · 08/12/2018 20:29

Legal red light zone was a mistake, says its pioneer
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3445698-Legal-red-light-zone-was-mistake-says-its-pioneer

Jane Clare Jones - Ontological totalitarianism by numbers
janeclarejones.com/2018/12/08/ontological-totalitarianism-by-numbers/

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heresyandwitchcraft · 08/12/2018 10:06

Thanks Yeahnahyeah!

VICE: how an online forum for moms became a toxic hotbed for transphobia. We're a hotbed now!
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3444548-Vice-how-an-online-forum-for-moms-became-a-toxic-hotbed-of-transphobia

Letter in the Times: Plea to trans lobby from group of transsexuals
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3445694-Letter-in-the-Times-Plea-To-The-Trans-Lobby-from-group-of-transsexuals

Please defend Jenni Murray's reputation
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3443128-Please-defend-Jenni-Murrays-reputation

A quarter of UK adults think that marital sex without consent is not rape?!?!?!?!
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3444955-a-quarter-of-uk-adults-think-that-marital-sex-without-consent-is-not-rape

More on womb transplants
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3444428-The-womb-transplant-breakthrough

Hannah Gadsby, total legend
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3445020-Hannah-Gadsby-on-good-men

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Yeahnahyeah · 06/12/2018 20:23

Bumping for those who read the Vice article

heresyandwitchcraft · 05/12/2018 17:18

Shocking bullying of Prof Freedman, likely perpetrated by TRAs
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3443107-Shocking-bullying-of-gender-critical-law-professor-Rosa-Freedman

Debbie Hayton and Posie Parker on TalkRadio
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3443223-Debbie-Hayton-and-Posie-Parker-on-Matthew-Wright-TalkRadio-between-1pm-and-2pm-Thread-title-edited-by-MNHQ

Womb transplants.......
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3443112-womb-transplant-i-think-we-know-where-this-will-go-don-t-we

Teacher suspended for mis-pronouning a child
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3443537-Teacher-suspended-for-mis-pronouning-child

William Ray on Medium
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3441171-William-Ray-on-Medium

Nic Williams of FPFW on Woman's Hour talking about sport
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3442132-Nic-Williams-on-Womans-Hour-Tuesday-talking-about-sport-and-gender-identity

Reclaiming Biology - Heather Brunskell-Evans
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3439449-Reclaiming-evolutionary-biology-thinking-about-what-Heather-Brunskell-Evans-said

There aren't any words left try not to roll your eyes TOO hard
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3442548-There-really-just-aren-t-any-words-left

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heresyandwitchcraft · 03/12/2018 19:47

Julie Bindel and Sammy Woodhouse on Woman's Hour!
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3441022-Julie-Bindel-is-on-Womans-Hour-tomorrow

GP Helen Webberley fined £12k.... wasn't she hailed as a hero by the BBC recently?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3441380-Criminal-gender-GP-Helen-Webberley-fined-12k

Enforcing the Equality Act
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3441533-Enforcing-the-Equality-Act-the-law-and-the-role-of-the-EHRC-inquiry

Mail online criticises a charity for distributing binders to young teens!
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3440120-Mail-online-criticises-Manchester-MORF-charity-for-distributing-binders-to-young-teens

Why should men support feminism?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3440564-Why-should-men-support-feminism

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heresyandwitchcraft · 02/12/2018 20:27

Bob Withers, psychoanalyst, we are experimenting on children
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3439065-Bob-Withers-Psychoanalyst-We-are-experimenting-on-children

Reports that Helen Steel and another woman were surrounded and physically threatened at an anarchist bookfair!
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3439944-Reports-that-Helen-Steel-and-another-woman-were-surrounded-and-physically-dragged-out-of-another-anarchist-bookfair-for-wrongthink

Scottish sex offender prison official and a highly dubious story. The Sunday Times does amazing work again
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3440219-Scottish-sex-offender-prison-official-Sunday-Times-story

University of Hull and Jenni Murray
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3439203-Uni-of-Hull-to-name-building-after-Jenni-Murray-You-can-probably-guess-the-rest

Convince a right-winger to become a feminist?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3439971-I-am-a-right-winger-convince-me-to-become-a-feminist

Heather Brunskell Evans and Bodily Autonomy
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3440521-Heather-Brunskell-Evans-and-Bodily-Autonomy

Meghan Murphy speech
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3440206-meghan-murphy-speech-at-event-hosted-by-lindsay-shepherd

Bradley Fuckitt Welcomes Careful Drivers
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3435161-Badley-Fuckitt-Welcomes-Careful-Drivers

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