You just cannot talk about Palestine on this forum

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Faffandahalf Tue 11-May-21 14:03:48

Why has the last thread been taken down with a ‘goady op’ message?
What’s so goady about asking why we can’t criticise the actions of Israel?
Don’t even give a shit this is a TAAT and will get zapped.

Palestine exists. Ethnic cleansing is happening. And every single thread gets taken down.

Only one person on that thread shouted anti semitism. Every one else was mostly in agreement about what is happening and it still gets zapped.

I’ll once again direct people to friends of al Aqsa on Instagram and Twitter in the hopes people see this and would like some real information.

Israel is an occupying oppressor committing genocide and the Palestinians are an oppressed people. There is no comparison in the force power and might of these two groups esp when one has the backing and funding of the US.

Seriously pissed at MN for refusing to allow truths to be told about the situation

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CounsellorTroi Tue 11-May-21 14:06:49

If it's official MN policy that we can't discuss the Israel/Palestine situation then they need to come out and say so.

Cherrycee Tue 11-May-21 14:08:06

Agree OP, it's ridiculous.

ohfourfoxache Tue 11-May-21 14:08:31

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/4241811-Palestine-and-Israel-threads-constantly-removed

ohfourfoxache Tue 11-May-21 14:09:00

Completely agree - it’s absolutely ridiculous angry

LarsErickssong Tue 11-May-21 14:09:24

Yep I agree the posters saying Palestinians use children as human shields were being much more gladly.

LarsErickssong Tue 11-May-21 14:09:35

Argh *goady

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Faffandahalf Tue 11-May-21 14:09:41

Yes MN why don’t you just come out and say you refuse any discussion on this topic.
And don’t give me the this is too emotive crap.
Brutality injustice and persecution should be an emotive subject and it should be discussed

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TakeMe2Insanity Tue 11-May-21 14:10:59

Not sure what else to add other than please read, share information that’s happening to the Palestinians at the moment. It is beyond awful.

HannaHat Tue 11-May-21 14:11:11

Agreed. Absolutely ridiculous angry

SofiaMichelle Tue 11-May-21 14:11:16

LarsErickssong

Yep I agree the posters saying Palestinians use children as human shields were being much more gladly.

It's true. And it's been proven.

justasecond Tue 11-May-21 14:13:19

Bloody ridiculous. If we are not allowed to discuss Israel then just say it openly.

LarsErickssong Tue 11-May-21 14:13:43

@SofiaMichelle so it's Anti-Semitic to criticise Israel's handling of things (not just Jews) but it's OK to generalise that all Palestinians murder their children? Right

Blacktothepink Tue 11-May-21 14:14:43

It’s horrendous sad

Faffandahalf Tue 11-May-21 14:14:54

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BalladOfBarryAndFreda Tue 11-May-21 14:15:15

I agree OP. That thread was mostly fine given the nature of the topic being discussed and the OP certainly was not goady. Of course MNHQ can delete whatever they want on their platform but that deletion reason didn’t track and the thread didn’t break stated Talk Guidelines.

CuriousaboutSamphire Tue 11-May-21 14:15:38

I am in my mid 50s.

Before SM it wasn't possible to discuss this as many people would get extremely angry, aggressive. Supporters of both sides

Now there is SM and 'sides' have been chosen, lines drawn. It is much harder to start such a conversation.

To be very clear... I lost family to Nazi Germany. I am not anto semite, I am critical of the state of Israel.

I am also critical of Palestine. It has not always been the 'underdog' in this.

Way back in the 80s this conflict was so entrenched that it formed part of modern history O levels. It was in newspapers, across Ceefax etc, every single day.

There is no resolution, as is the case with many similar conflicts.

It doesn't help that the US, Russia, UK and others, have had financial skin in this and have ony exacerbated the situation for their own gains, political or otherwise.

Before you decide to nail your colours to the cause for one or the other side you have to ask yourself a question - what do you think can be done, in the real world, to bring an end to this?

And, when you find that impossible to answer, then what do you do?

Diplomacy may not work for decades, centuries even. But it is probably all we have!

ohfourfoxache Tue 11-May-21 14:15:43

The double standards are breathtaking

SofiaMichelle Tue 11-May-21 14:16:15

LarsErickssong

*@SofiaMichelle* so it's Anti-Semitic to criticise Israel's handling of things (not just Jews) but it's OK to generalise that all Palestinians murder their children? Right

You must have read a different thread to me. The post you replied to on the other (^now deleted^) thread said nothing of the sort.

Where on earth did you get, "all Palestinians murder their children" from?!

SofiaMichelle Tue 11-May-21 14:17:51

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TinyGlassOwl Tue 11-May-21 14:18:40

justasecond

Bloody ridiculous. If we are not allowed to discuss Israel then just say it openly.

This. I have been on MN for a looooooong time and it does appear to be an unofficial policy. It would be good to have clarity on this, @MNHQ.

Criticising of the actions of a government is not the same as voicing anti-semitic sentiments. The latter is abhorrent, but the former is and always should be seen as legitimate.

murbblurb Tue 11-May-21 14:18:59

Hamas ( does not equal all Palestinians - clear enough? ) do use women and children as human shields. Israel is also not without blame. Hamas ( does not equal all Palestinians) have a clearly stated goal to destroy Israel. They did distance themselves from one of their officials who changed that to 'kill all jews'.

Souther Tue 11-May-21 14:19:15

No we obviously cant. I was wondering why there were no posts about this.

Faffandahalf Tue 11-May-21 14:19:31

I think the Palestinians have seen what happens when no one ‘nails their colours’ to their sides. No one in the real world cares. They only have themselves.
The word underdog trivialises a brutal occupation and regime that commits atrocities regularly.

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