AIBU to think women should not be banned from Social media for asking the question - Thread 2

[Thewithesarehere]

Many women have been suspended from sm for asking the question:
“Do you believe that male sexed people should be allowed access to changing rooms and showers for female sexed people and teenagers?”
Seems like a perfectly reasonable question which we should be allowed to ask.

Let’s vote with our AIBU.

[Fatfunt]

Why and who banned them??

[JoyousAsOtters]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4148030-AIBU-to-think-women-should-not-be-banned-from-Social-media-for-asking-the-question

Link to previous thread

[Idratherberude]

Sorry for having the last post on the other thread, and thank you for creating a new one

[Quaagars]

Why and who banned them??

From what I can gather

People are up in arms that social media is cracking down on hate speech

If you come at it tweeting/commenting as a woman, it's solely to do with the fact that people want women to shut up and nothing to do with they're being transphobic
(even half the time how would you even know who was or wasn't a woman on the 'net, surely it's just words most of the time)


Yes, I can understand self ID concerns, that's fair enough, just it's not always that however much people tend to pretend it is.
Or there's those that are concerned about self ID (again, fair enough, can understand) but fail to see what else is under the surface.

[Quaagars]

Ooh 57% to 43%
Fairly evenly split so far

[Whatwouldscullydo]

Thank you for starting this new thread.

Hoping for sone answers as to why be kind means women should do whats asked of them regardless of harm caused and why the kindness is a one way and the suggestion that others are kind and respect consent and boundaries is bigoted.

[Blubellsarebells]

Can you make the voting clearer? I think this one could be misread as if the poll is asking the question rather than should we be allowed to ask it if that makes sense?

[Thewithesarehere]

@Blubellsarebells

Can you make the voting clearer? I think this one could be misread as if the poll is asking the question rather than should we be allowed to ask it if that makes sense?

I have copied and pasted the first OP of previous thread because of you know what
This thread can’t be moved from AIBU.

[Impatiens]

@Fatfunt

Why and who banned them??

If you google Helen Staniland it will help you. She was banned from Twitter for asking the question wrt to the trans v women's rights debate.

[Campervan69]

YANBU women deserve female only single sex spaces, services and sports. Amd we should be allowed to speak about it.

[Thewithesarehere]

@Fatfunt

Why and who banned them??

The answer is in your question. You read the OP and had to ask us because you couldn’t find anything unreasonable in it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[Impatiens]

People are up in arms that social media is cracking down on hate speech

Start as you mean to go on @Quaagars? Once again, a very dishonest post.

[Angryresister]

Thanks thewithes

[Quaagars]

Ithink this one could be misread as if the poll is asking the question rather than should we be allowed to ask it if that makes sense?

It is clear?
It's the question that was asked in the last one.
In what sense can it be misread - it clearly says “Do you believe that male sexed people should be allowed access to changing rooms and showers for female sexed people and teenagers?”
Or is it because it keeps nearing a 50 50 split, comes across a bit Trump, as in "it's a fix!" lol

[ListeningQuietly]

Please remember

Around 90% of Transwomen keep their penis and testicles

Newcomers to the issue are merely where people like myself were a year or two ago

• thinking that Transwomen meant post surgery
• thinking that transvestites were happy to be regarded as men
• UTTERLY unaware of the Queer theory misogyny
• thinking that Stonewall were about Gay rights, not oppressing Women

BUT
Once seen, the truth cannot be unseen

thevelvetchronicle.com/ny-democrats-quietly-dismantle-1-male-1-female-rule/

[Quaagars]

Once again, a very dishonest post.
In what way?

[Blubellsarebells]

Is asking if male people should be allowed into womens spaces hate speech now?
Come on.

[Thewithesarehere]

This is where we were 2.5 minutes ago.

[Whatwouldscullydo]

And of course remember that the definition of trans has been expanded. It no longer means 5000 with a certificate, it covers everyone from.part time.cross dressers to those who have had surgery.

[StealthPolarBear]

I am sick of any woman questioning all this shit being classed as transphobic. Absolutely fuvked off to the back teeth of it. Down with this sort of absolute fucking crap.

[Impatiens]

I think to be scrupulously honest it should be pointed out that Helen repeatedly used the word 'penis' in her twitter posts and this seemed to really inflame the trans activists.

[StealthPolarBear]

Scully I've had a thread along those lines deleted. Be careful.

[Thewithesarehere]

Stole this from the other thread because it’s too good to not be shared:

The only half way I can see is third spaces
And apparently thats not good enough.
Males in female spaces is a hard no from me.
Im saying no.
I'll keep saying no.
Theres a word for men that dont listen to women saying no.

[Impatiens]

@Quaagars

Once again, a very dishonest post.
In what way?

By framing the thread as a debate about 'hate speech'. The question is in the OP and is clearly not IN ANY WAY 'hate speech'.

[Blubellsarebells]

It is clear?
It's the question that was asked in the last one.
In what sense can it be misread - it clearly says “Do you believe that male sexed people should be allowed access to changing rooms and showers for female sexed people and teenagers?”
Or is it because it keeps nearing a 50 50 split, comes across a bit Trump, as in "it's a fix!" lol
No quaggars.
Have you misread it because that's not the question the poll is asking.
Its 80/20.
I misread it. I've re read it.
Its been a long day. Ive read an awful lot of disingenous nonsense today.