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To be shocked that Mn has been branded a “hotbed of transphobia”

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Badmoonsarising Fri 07-Dec-18 14:20:07

BY Vice msgazine no less!

https://broadly.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/a3mn9k/mumsnet-uk-mom-forum-terf-transphobia-feminism

Badmoonsarising Fri 07-Dec-18 14:20:24

broadly.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/a3mn9k/mumsnet-uk-mom-forum-terf-transphobia-feminism

MrsPinkCock Fri 07-Dec-18 14:21:01

They have a point.

SemperIdem Fri 07-Dec-18 14:21:14

I’m not at all shocked, it is very predictable, particularly from something like Vice.

bringincrazyback Fri 07-Dec-18 14:21:38

Depends. Are you shocked because you think the accusation is unfounded?

WinklemansFringe Fri 07-Dec-18 14:22:21

It's a terrible article, I've seen it on twitter.

Wouldn't lose much sleep over a writer just trying to be one of the cool kids and only writing about one side of a two sided debate.

Sexnotgender Fri 07-Dec-18 14:24:02

Yawn...

How dare women take an interest in things that affect our lives. Back in the kitchen all of you.

GladAllOver Fri 07-Dec-18 14:26:59

Anyone or anything protecting women is automatically labelled transphobic.
Get used to it. I have.

Grumpasaurus Fri 07-Dec-18 14:31:34

To be fair, it is becoming a hotbed of transphobia. I still find some of the parenting advice useful but some of the absolutely disgusting and unfiltered transphobia and hatred for trans people really makes me question if I want to be part of this forum.

It's frankly disgusting.

Elfinablender Fri 07-Dec-18 14:31:43

It's odd that the article juxtaposes the ‘Let Girls Be Girls’ and ‘Let Toys Be Toys’ with the nasty feminists who have a very narrow view of what it is to be a woman, as if it is two different things. As if, used correctly Mumsnet is a good thing but used badly it is a hot bed of transphobia.

But all the above is just different facets of the same argument, which is that gender stereotypes are limiting and harmful to boys and girls and have little to do with the realities of the sexed body.

PengAly Fri 07-Dec-18 14:32:23

I mean....Mumsnet does feel very transphobic. Its quite sad and the amount of negative assumptions i see on here about trans people is concerning. Id love to see mumsnet get a more modern opinion but sadly i doubt that will happen.

Auntiepatricia Fri 07-Dec-18 14:32:40

Well it is so I don’t know why you’re shocked op.

ADastardlyThing Fri 07-Dec-18 14:32:49

Yanbu I'm quite surprised as from what I've seen there have really only been a very very small minority of transphobic posts which are always removed by mnhq.

JustABetterPlayer Fri 07-Dec-18 14:33:01

Given that they are correct that 90% of the feminism posts are harping on about it they’re probably right.

2cats2many Fri 07-Dec-18 14:34:42

Grumpasaurus if you spot any transphobia you should report it. MN will delete.

That is unless you are one of those people that think any questioning of TRA ideology is transphobic.

NerrSnerr Fri 07-Dec-18 14:35:06

Posters on trans threads are very careful about the language they use but trans people are not exactly loved on here are they?

Sexnotgender Fri 07-Dec-18 14:35:09

some of the absolutely disgusting and unfiltered transphobia and hatred for trans people really makes me question if I want to be part of this forum.

It's frankly disgusting

That does sound disgusting. Can you link to some examples?

Bombardier25966 Fri 07-Dec-18 14:35:40

Dress it up how you want, but there is a nasty element of veiled transphobia on MN. It goes much much further than protecting women's rights.

NerrSnerr Fri 07-Dec-18 14:36:31

Can you link to some examples?

That's tricky as it's always deleted. Doesn't mean it wasn't there in the first place.

The thread about the trans woman who was missing and vulnerable springs to mind for me. Quite rightly it was deleted.

2cats2many Fri 07-Dec-18 14:38:52

Veiled transphobia AKA daring to disagree with nonsense.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted Fri 07-Dec-18 14:39:09

There's a very good reason why posts are "harping on" about trans issues. This situation threatens to be the greatest roll-back of women's rights in this country, ever. Maybe the majority will realise this but I sincerely hope that it won't be when it's too late to do anything about it. Need confirmation of just how serious this is? Look at Canada, they've drunk the Kool-Aid.

Helmetbymidnight Fri 07-Dec-18 14:39:46

If you think single sex spaces are important you’re a transphobe nowadays.

If you think a woman is an adult human Female you’re a transphobe

#awkward

3WildOnes Fri 07-Dec-18 14:39:57

I don’t believe you are shocked to read that. I don’t believe that anyone who posts in the feminism section is so unaware that they don’t realise that the vast majority or people think that saying a trans woman is a man is transphobic. I might agree with your opinion to a point but I’m aware that is considered a transphobic view by many.

Bombardier25966 Fri 07-Dec-18 14:40:05

Posters on trans threads are very careful about the language they use

Perfectly summed up. Staying just within the rules doesn't mean that the intent behind the message is not transphobic.

SnuggyBuggy Fri 07-Dec-18 14:40:22

The term transphobia is so broad it's meaningless.

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