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At a 19yr Old Transwoman being elected a Labour woman’s officer

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bambambini Mon 20-Nov-17 08:48:26

Seems the old WO stepped down after alleged bullying and accusation of transphobia. The new WO is a 19 yr old Transwoman - i think who made many of The allegations against the previous WO.

What experience has a 19 yr old TW got to hold this post - weirder than weird.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-teenager-lily-madigan-voted-in-as-a-labour-women-s-officer-mwchkhzq8

bambambini Mon 20-Nov-17 08:49:28

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-teenager-lily-madigan-voted-in-as-a-labour-women-s-officer-mwchkhzq8

shutitandtidyupgitface Mon 20-Nov-17 08:53:37

So a man got a woman fired from her job and replaced her as the womens officer ?

For fucks sake, it's kafka-esque.

AfunaMbatata Mon 20-Nov-17 08:54:23

Wow, just how fuckig stupid can you be to elect a male to do that job?! What the actual fuck?!

SpuriouserAndSpuriouser Mon 20-Nov-17 09:00:00

Labour Party rules state that “the women’s officer must be a woman”. Ms Madigan said it was “misguided” to suggest she could not fulfil the duties of the role, simply because she was born male.

Jesus christ, it's absolutely farcical

Lancelottie Mon 20-Nov-17 09:00:36

Is it mean to hope that this teenager will be deluged with constituents wanting to discuss discrimination during pregnancy, maternity leave, abortion rights, teenage mothers, breast cancer care, #MeToo, sex discrimination, assault, HRT and work-life balance?

I suspect they think of womanhood in that sort of theoretical way of most teenagers. They certainly seem to think that if women have problems because of their biology, they just need to get over it, otherwise it's somehow letting down the sisterhood.

I don't want any inexperienced, self-obsessed, appearance-obsessed teenager, whose only campaigns seem to have been 'let me wear a skirt' and 'tell that woman to stop being mean to me', telling me how to woman.

Can we have someone who cares about actual biological women's issues instead, please?

Lancelottie Mon 20-Nov-17 09:02:32

Surely, even in the 'transwomen are women and we mean to keep saying it' brigade, this isn't a woman, because they're only 19 and can't have had the requisite 2-year 'living as a woman' period, however meaningless that is?

jellyfrizz Mon 20-Nov-17 09:06:40

I would argue strongly that all appeals to biology are anti-feminist. We can’t challenge the view we are limited by our biology in one breath and use the biology argument against trans women in the next.

This quote really pissed me off. So, women have historically only been treated as second class citizens because of how we present, nothing to do with biology at all. WTF?

Lancelottie Mon 20-Nov-17 09:07:58

They do sound a bit dim.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 20-Nov-17 09:09:08

Just to to point out that it is actually a neighbouring constituency he got the job in..

There is also a thread in feminism about this

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3091663-lily-madigan-tim-elected-labour-women-s-officer

But yes, it is totally taking the piss

1. He's male

2. I can't see a teenage girl being given the job

misscockerspaniel Mon 20-Nov-17 09:09:26

Yesterday, I read that Linda Bellos was under investigation by the Labour party after a Labour pressure group complained that she "was inciting violence against trans members and the wider trans community".

I am beginning to realise that what is happening to woman (eg; male and female loos becoming unisex and urinals) is just another way of men dominating and oppressing women.

Lancelottie Mon 20-Nov-17 09:11:24

That statement actually sets out the conflict of interest quite neatly, doesn't it? This teenager can't represent the needs and experiences of women as they differ from those of men, because to do so would point up the differences between those of biological women and of transwomen.

SilverdaleGlen Mon 20-Nov-17 09:13:36

Ah labour, please do crack on with making yourself unelectable hmm

Cactusjelly00 Mon 20-Nov-17 09:17:20

I know who I won't be voting for in the next election.
It pains me as a British citizen who's always voted labour (even being overseas) to say that in the next election my vote will be going to whoever doesn't support this shit. Even if they are conservatives.
That hurts.
sad

InfiniteSheldon Mon 20-Nov-17 09:20:28

Great dichotomy: I can do this job because there's no difference between you and me what's the job? Oh it's about helping with the difference ????? What the actual fuck is going on with the Labour Party.

IfNot Mon 20-Nov-17 09:23:56

Fuck. So, the Labour party is either spineless or mysoginistic..
Or so in thrall to the generation they are counting on to elect them that all basic common sense has left the building.
Or all 3?

napmeistergeneral Mon 20-Nov-17 09:24:18

What. The. Fuck.
Laughable. If it weren't so utterly depressing.

Mummyoflittledragon Mon 20-Nov-17 09:25:18

Wtf?! shock

brasty Mon 20-Nov-17 09:25:34

Fucking stupid Labour Party

WhoWants2Know Mon 20-Nov-17 09:26:46

So we have given up employing people based on intelligence, education and experience, in favour of someone who may look nice in a skirt. Good-oh.

KC225 Mon 20-Nov-17 09:29:30

19?

DrWibley Mon 20-Nov-17 09:29:37

Where did everyone think this gender thing was going? I am amazed people are surprised.

brasty Mon 20-Nov-17 09:29:54

And the Women's Officer job will be dealing mainly with issues like pregnancy discrimination and sexual harassment. Although I suspect Lily will want to focus on trans campaigns.

GerdaLovesLili Mon 20-Nov-17 09:30:27

It's all about the yoof vote innit?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g Mon 20-Nov-17 09:30:51

The Tories are no better. They are the ones pushing through the Gender Recognition Act.

The Greens have swallowed the Kool Aid too. The Women's Equality Party too, I gather. Don't know about the LibDems.

So who can we vote for?

Brexit doesn't help either, as Labour are so utterly useless on that issue as well.

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