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Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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RedToothBrush · Yesterday 10:43

In the last hour

Green Women's Declaration
We are hearing reports from inside the @GreenPartyWomen fringe that they have been invaded by Trans Rights Activists trying to close down the presentation about Women’s pelvic floor health by @GussieGrips

We are disgusted by this and send love & solidarity to our sisters 💚

Meanwhile a safe room has been set up for Jewish Greens (there's some really bad optics with this one in terms of the concept of outting).

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 10:46

Jordan Stokes seems to be claiming responsibility for protesting the Green Party Women event on women's pelvic floor health. Chair of GP in West Norfolk. Councillor in Dersingham Parish Council.

What sort of man crashes an event like this?

Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3
BackToLurk · Yesterday 10:47

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 10:43

In the last hour

Green Women's Declaration
We are hearing reports from inside the @GreenPartyWomen fringe that they have been invaded by Trans Rights Activists trying to close down the presentation about Women’s pelvic floor health by @GussieGrips

We are disgusted by this and send love & solidarity to our sisters 💚

Meanwhile a safe room has been set up for Jewish Greens (there's some really bad optics with this one in terms of the concept of outting).

Pictures just in from the Green Party leadership team.

Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3
Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 10:49

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 10:46

Jordan Stokes seems to be claiming responsibility for protesting the Green Party Women event on women's pelvic floor health. Chair of GP in West Norfolk. Councillor in Dersingham Parish Council.

What sort of man crashes an event like this?

no comment

fromorbit · Yesterday 10:49

Both Carla Denyer and Adrian Ramsey have posted big attacks on the motion as has Sian Berry in an interview .

This is not the first time it has happened the BNP had a similar stance.

If this passes the Greens will be way more racist than Reform.

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fromorbit · Yesterday 10:58

Wow ZPy is really showing his true nature here.

Polanski to skip ‘Zionism is Racism’ vote
Greens leader due to be on campaign trail in London when contentious motion is debated in Brighton
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/10/04/polanski-skip-zionism-racism-vote/

Leaving other leading figures to debate a motion which will change the party for ever.

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ArabellaScott · Yesterday 11:04

fromorbit · Yesterday 10:58

Wow ZPy is really showing his true nature here.

Polanski to skip ‘Zionism is Racism’ vote
Greens leader due to be on campaign trail in London when contentious motion is debated in Brighton
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/10/04/polanski-skip-zionism-racism-vote/

Leaving other leading figures to debate a motion which will change the party for ever.

Brave Sir Zak ran away. He's not going to win his by election either.

Sweepstake on how much longer he's going to last as leader?

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 11:09

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 10:46

Jordan Stokes seems to be claiming responsibility for protesting the Green Party Women event on women's pelvic floor health. Chair of GP in West Norfolk. Councillor in Dersingham Parish Council.

What sort of man crashes an event like this?

Same kind of man I came across 12 months ago wanting to destroy the purpose of a womens outdoor adventure group.

Left wing Incels

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 11:11

fromorbit · Yesterday 10:58

Wow ZPy is really showing his true nature here.

Polanski to skip ‘Zionism is Racism’ vote
Greens leader due to be on campaign trail in London when contentious motion is debated in Brighton
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/10/04/polanski-skip-zionism-racism-vote/

Leaving other leading figures to debate a motion which will change the party for ever.

Wow. Just wow.

Just how unsuitable is this man for national level mainstream political leadership.

He's toast isn't he?

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 11:12

Anyone remember a TRA ally guy called Richard Firth? A member of one of the Yorkshire Green Party groups. He protested a march for lesbians in Leeds, leading the chant “I’d rather be a pervert than a terf”. Lovely.

CassOle · Yesterday 11:18

I've just caught up with this thread and... I'm lost for words.

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 11:19

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 11:12

Anyone remember a TRA ally guy called Richard Firth? A member of one of the Yorkshire Green Party groups. He protested a march for lesbians in Leeds, leading the chant “I’d rather be a pervert than a terf”. Lovely.

Yep. Absolute creep.

fromorbit · Yesterday 11:59

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 11:11

Wow. Just wow.

Just how unsuitable is this man for national level mainstream political leadership.

He's toast isn't he?

Well there is supposed to be another Leadership election next year.

Be interesting to see who stands for what. I think Mothin is toast if he stands again.

WHEREAS there is likely to be a ZP vs the party MPs challenge which might get vicious. Who knows who would win it. The ZPites are very keen

Though ZP might run off to become another lefty pundit.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 12:14

I guess it depends how long Hypno walks his uneasy tightrope with people like that Folan bloke stirring and pushing him to take unsustainable positions on divisive issues.

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 12:21

fromorbit · Yesterday 11:59

Well there is supposed to be another Leadership election next year.

Be interesting to see who stands for what. I think Mothin is toast if he stands again.

WHEREAS there is likely to be a ZP vs the party MPs challenge which might get vicious. Who knows who would win it. The ZPites are very keen

Though ZP might run off to become another lefty pundit.

I think it lays bare that there is probably a power struggle within the party.

Polanski NEEDs the trans activist vote to stay in power against a growing anti-Semitic group

He has to pander to them without question for his own ends.

Lalgarh · Yesterday 13:04

Yet judging by Folan the trans activists are just as vehemently anti Zionist as the Gaza factions.

With Your Party last year it was Zarah Sultanas trans inclusive faction that chased off the Gaza Independents as "transphobic landlords" that were pushing for this type of motion

ProfessoressaSazzasez · Yesterday 13:14

Igneococcus · 02/05/2026 20:34

Interview in the Times.
"Polanski’s politics are unquestionably bold. His strategy is to publicise policies not directly related to environmentalism, on the grounds that voters already know about his party’s green agenda."
I have to admit that I don't know what their environmental policies are, not convinced Zack knows them either.
https://www.thetimes.com/article/d21dfdab-85e1-460e-a7f4-c4d081681cf8?shareToken=fce5e4efe1f9d04f8ab86d8851f80957&ver=article

If Ol’ Hypnotits “wants to talk to people who disagree”, why were Green Women’s Declaration banned from the conference?

Or if the Greens felt some middle-aged female environmentalists & peaceniks were genuinely “making Trans people feel unsafe”, why didn't he pop out for a chat? They were there all weekend.

CarobBean72 · Yesterday 13:27

Lalgarh · 02/10/2026 22:04

Possible Eliot /Eleonora Folan/ stats for Lefties.

The Shia teachings, or some edict believes that the explanation for same sex attraction 🧲 is that someone was born into the wrong body. So you have gay or lesbian couples having to have one partner transition otherwise they get executed

A wee bit of gossip about Folan.

i was in a cafe in Norwich last autumn & he was at a table right by us, with a baby stroller & a vast shaven-headed woman.

EF was sounding off about being mentally ill, & the woman was holding - and appeared to be nursing - a baby.

I did a slight double take realising the baby was black, as they were both white: but of course there are interracial couples. Fine.

And as we got up to go I realised the baby was a very realistic life-sized baby doll.

Lalgarh · Yesterday 13:37

Oh yes!!

I remember that. Have you seen them since

DrBlackbird · Yesterday 15:29

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 11:04

Brave Sir Zak ran away. He's not going to win his by election either.

Sweepstake on how much longer he's going to last as leader?

God please please let this come true…

DrBlackbird · Yesterday 15:30

Absolutely incredible.

iwishitwouldstartraining · Yesterday 15:38

DrBlackbird · Yesterday 15:30

Absolutely incredible.

"The motion, which is now formal policy for the Greens in England and Wales, also calls for a single Palestinian state in place of Israel “with equal rights for all""

And how are they imagining this might happen?

CassOle · Yesterday 15:40

Utter madness.