Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Gosh, with the anti Semites suing the party on top of the gender critical women also suing them, Polanski is going to need to keep those membership fees at record levels to just about cover the party's legal fees.

Will OJ permit Hadley to speak on the topic if Janice is to be silenced?

Corbyn (will the man not just shut up?) encouraged candidates to sign the “People’s Pledge for Palestine”, in which councillors promise to “ensure accountability for Israel’s crimes of genocide”.

This is insane to be asking local councillors to even reference a conflict that none of them will know anything of substance about. Why would my local councillors ensure accountability for Gaza when they can’t even take accountability for the town centre graffiti? Given that they cannot and do not have the slightest influence over the Middle East conflict, is this a not so subtle bid for the local Muslim vote?

Once again I will call.for councillors and local authorities to be independent and non party political.

Only matter of time before the red green brown coalesce

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red%E2%80%93green%E2%80%93brown_alliance
In the US the democrats, yes them, are now endorsing a candidate for senate in Maine who has a nazi tattoo because he describes himself as a Bernie bro and a communist.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/04/graham-platner-maine-tattoo-slur/

I'm sure the far-right are very happy to be designated as brown, lol.
No shit!

I have long argued that the solution to the housing crisis is to relax planning restrictions, but only in constituencies that vote Liberal Democrat.

I'm starting to worry that Zia Yusuf is eavesdropping on my conversations.
Zia Yusuf on X: "Important new Reform policy: https://t.co/y9R9P5Gqyt" / X

Maybe they're reading your mind, I would start wearing a tinfoil hat if I were you, better safe than sorry. 😂

What's the consultation fee you'll be charging Yusuf?

Trevor Phillips in the Times about antisemitism today, not specifically the Greens:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/85444032-4e2b-443f-a5bf-3d8bac49c599?shareToken=b9eb6e4078f47c7aff4c6cb5b309d050&ver=article

Thanks for the link
"The question being asked is: “Would they hide me?”
I'm not Jewish but I've been using the same metric lately, mine has been more along the lines of Would this person hide Anne Frank or turn them over to the Nazi's? Depressingly, I've come to the conclusion that there far, far more collaborators than saviours, especially amongst those in positions of power and influence.

"If our political parties really mean it when they talk about unity against Jew hatred, they should act this week."
Don't hold your breath Trev, none of them seem capable of growing a spine anytime soon. 😕

The collaborators/saviour question is a question we post-WW2 born Germans have asked ourselves from a very early age on.

United by a shared affinity for authoritarianism and desire to control the population.

ZP has said he'd "discourage" the chanting on pro Palestine marches eg Intifada etc.

In terms of online the green accounts have doubled down .

An aside here. The account mentioned here nominally tweets about Meghan markle and princess Di, but has pivoted to "Zack my leader".

https://nitter.net/hol40900/status/2050869336894521676#m

It's an AI bot.
https://nitter.net/danbarker/status/2050938563580121155#m

- the text is pure AI. 'Instead of X he's doing Y'. 'Social media wants X. He's doing Y'. 'That's not X [em-dash] that's Y'. - the account uses a very poorly created AI headshot, made by an old 'GAN' model.
You can always tell these as the eyes and mouth are in exactly the same spot (in the profile pic). They look friendly because the features are literally averaged from thousands of real human faces, but once you know how to spot them they're instantly recognisable as AI.

Who's boosting him?

At least you're confronting the past, which is perhaps the best way to ensure that it never happens again.

Unfortunately there are too many 'progressive' Brits who haven't learnt from the past, and don't recognise that there are lesson's to be learnt from history. They're too busy patting themselves on the back because they're making history, without realising there making exactly the same mistakes that were made in the past.
As a species we are drearily predictable. 😕

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15789875/Greens-hopeful-slavery-reparations-descendant-slave-traders.html

'Antoinette Fernandez is the 'reparations officer' for the party's Global Majority Greens group which campaigns for 'racial and environmental justice'.

However, she is also the daughter of a billionaire oil baron who was one of Africa's richest men.

The local election candidate has campaigned for British taxpayers to pay reparations for the transatlantic slave trade and said that politicians who oppose it 'show an appalling arrogance'.'
...

'The campaigner's family accrued wealth through the slave trade which they used to purchase 'velvet clothes, royal umbrellas, hats and stylish robes', the account adds.'

I wonder if she was named for Marie-Antoinette.

I'm increasingly noticing that the Green/Reform divide looks like a class one, tbh.

The latest Reform policy of placing immigrant detention centres in Green areas led to responses from Green supporters along the lines of 'you can't possibly afford to put centres in our areas, they are far too expensive'.

Our little friend Zack in trouble again, now caught for liking a Tweet that basically says global wealth is controlled by the Jews.
So, what's his policy going to be on day one?
A wealth tax specifically directed at Jews?
Is he going to be the first leader built by social media to then be destroyed by social media?

Thanks for the link, I mean of the 'sins of the fathers' and all that, but I find it a bit hard to stomach that the daughter of someone who robbed his poverty stricken country blind and is descended from people who were slavers has the gall to call for repatriations from this country.

All though I save all my 'dislike' for the absolute arses who will vote for her. 🤯

Caroline Lucas has put a comment on X criticising the antisemitism of some of the Green candidates. This is the reply from "Eleanora", the creep that runs the Stats for Lefties account:

https://x.com/i/status/2051657674110927092

Ah, the Kind and the Good.

That's a very very milquetoast statement from Lucas, which is exactly what I'd expect from her - it could be boiled down to "I'm sorry some of our candidates were caught out, but honestly guv, it was only a handful of them and this is a society wide problem, let's turn it into a teachable moment".

This "Eleanora" character has been going in for edgelord commentary on Jews for a while but perhaps, like Little OJ and Mehdi Hasan, he's glad to have Zack around as a human shield.

Is this Eleanora unit part of the Global Left Cabal, or one of the Far Leftoids that got kicked out of Labour.

Either way, this is not a person I would want in charge of a country, this is the sort of person who disappeared all those people in Northern Ireland, Argentina and all the many other country's.

People need to find the spine to stand up to this sort of crap now, before it's too late.

Ah so finally admitting that when they say they want 'open borders' they mean only for the poors working class areas, knowing that it won't impact on them because their areas are 'too expensive' for immigrants.

In other words, Reform have forced them to admit they only mean for their policies to impact on other people and not on them.

It is a genius move by Reform and really exposes Green hypocrisy.

Wasn't there a whole lot of gnashing teeth from liberals when a few years back, Ron DeSantis governor of Florida bussed illegals from the border all the way to prime Migrants Welcome! areas in upstate NY, upper class The Hamptons etc?
What we found was that migrants were very definitely not welcome.