Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Another purity test. I tried using archive ph but it still locked

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/jewish-green-party-members-ban-zionist-synagogues-c3xwt3kzm

I think both the Times and the Telegraph now have a system that stops archiving.

However this other method which doesn't always work, has archived.

https://www.skipthepaywall.com/read?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetimes.com%2Fuk%2Fpolitics%2Farticle%2Fjewish-green-party-members-ban-zionist-synagogues-c3xwt3kzm

I dont think this is a particulary good article so posting more for info. And no surprise it isn't from a more liberal, left resource.

Inside the Green party’s Orwellian language guide
https://spectator.com/article/inside-the-green-partys-orwellian-language-guide/

and also https://archive.is/aYmbO

Have just seen a Green Party slot on both the BBC and ITV.

Seems to be some sort of hark back to a sort of hippy vide, we are all happy families and are sooooooooo worried about our children's futures.

ie focus on polution etc..

I wonder why they chose this slant?!

Greens ban gender-critical group from conference
Green Women’s Declaration told its presence would make ‘trans members feel unsafe’
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/10/01/greens-ban-gender-critical-group-from-conference/

and at https://archive.is/D8q0g

Thanks for the link.👍 I wonder if the influence for this decision is coming from the Loonie Lefties who decamped to the Green's, the same people who were responsible for the same thing happening to the women's groups in Labour.

"An email to the GWD, seen by The Telegraph, said: “GPEx took this decision because it believes that having GWD present at conference would make our 'trans' members feel unsafe based on the prior conduct of some GWD members.”

"...make our 'trans' members feel unsafe" - I so hate that expression, it's right down there with Be Kind. Naturally they don't specify how they're made to feel unsafe, no actual reasons, just hyperstupid, highly exaggerated language from the Drama Llama's

"based on the prior conduct of some GWD members.”

Again no example of the 'conduct', just slander and hyperbole.

What a dire, gross, hate filled party the Greens are. 🤮

Meanwhile nice Head Girl Rachel Millward has been doing the rounds of radio studios

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv62k201x720o

Entirely unsurprising.

God help us if ZP was voted in as MP. I’d have to give up entirely on listening to the news. It’s just a convenient cash cow and he probably can’t believe his good luck at how far it’s taken him. In my opinion.

R4 today was at Brighton for the conference this morning and they got Rachel Millward on to ummm and ahhhh about prisons (too many people are in prison. It's all linked to equality and crime rates are about economic things actually) but then had to back pedal when the interviewer mentioned how anxious many many women were about stalkers and domestic abusers being let out. Oh yes obviously that's bad etcetera

Also vague on whether they want to ban landlords or not. Interviewer Justin Webb normally majors on a lot of GC trans stuff but he avoided this time. Led straight out on her husband and her as Nd Mothin Ali being one time landlords. More waffle from Rachel. Really seemed to squirm on the proposed Zionism is racism motion

The Mail is reporting ZP has been making stuff up again…https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16176399/amp/Polanski-family-fled-Nazis-grandparents-born-britain-long-war.html

World at one now. They've got Natalie Bennett and she's being asked, repeatedly, "Is Zionism racism?". And she's not answering yes or no.

Shades of "did you Threaten to overrule him?" From paxman

Caroline Lucas wades in
https://www.thetimes.com/article/88764c5a-3f42-42d1-8866-08ee423108e0?shareToken=a6f707de5088eb08ab6d7e112982c068&ver=article

I can't believe he's trying to cash in on a real genocide by lying about his grandparents fleeing it and at the same time stoking hatred against the Jews with the rubbish that Pally's are being genocided.
He's a right piece of work, why his family hasn't publicly disowned and called him the liar that he is, is a mystery

Oh dear. And so easily found out.

Makes dear old BoJo look like an exemplar of probity.

I think there was something earlier in the year that said his mother and sister (iirc) had asked him to please think and tried to distance themselves from him. Possibly Hadley Freeman. He / team Zack then tried to claim she'd lied

She said: “I do have serious concerns about this motion. There is no single definition of Zionism, and irrespective of the intentions of the people who put that motion forward, I think there is a real risk that it’ll be divisive and could be seen as a sign that Jewish people aren’t welcome in the party. I will not be supporting it for that reason.”

This seems somewhat hypocritical of Caroline if we substitute the word Zionism with the word woman. She certainly didn’t see a problem with women not feeling welcome in the party. Despite it being divisive. So she respects religion as a pc, but not sex.

I don't follow politics closely but I've long had the impression that she's a big ol' bag of hypocrisy.

I think there is a real risk that it’ll be divisive and could be seen as a sign that Jewish people aren’t welcome in the party.

Duh, yea think Caroline? 🤯

I swear when god gave out brains they were all standing behind the biggest mountain range on the planet.

I am in a Facebook group with one of his relatives. They are not his biggest fan, let’s put it that way.

Sorry cant find an archive version of this but thought some might appreciate the headline

Trans rights better in Iran than Britain, say Green activists
Left-wing faction claims Muslim nations ‘far more tolerant’ than the West
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/10/02/trans-rights-better-iran-than-uk-green-activists/

For anyone that wants to read it:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/8b5cb0d6e184dc7b

The Green Party has an odd understanding of the word liberal.

It is a mystery how intelligent liberal lefties can accept clarity on some matters but when it comes to trans identifying men vs women, it’s the men every time. Because… ‘kindness’.

🤯

Okay, they can invite trans people to go live in progressive Iran. I wonder how many would take up the offer?

I’m sure one of the high profile TRAs made a similar claim on Twitter. Cannot remember which one.