Sara Morrison vs Belfast Film Festival - Thread 2

[TwoLoonsAndASprout]

Continuation of previous thread - don’t have all the details to hand to add here, so if someone can pop them on, pls do! Want to get this up quickly!

I would too, but I shortly have to go and walk the dogs...

Wow.

Thanks for all the work on the threads, I'm trying to keep up will busy, but this is gold.

I'm presuming there is proper "proof" of NCs allegations in whatever they've pulled together this morning.

wow.

If they don’t recuse I’m assuming it’s an automatic appeal?

They're not going to be able to fudge this one. Not with Nick Wallis as well as Naomi in the room.

NC travels with receipts.

I think the paperwork will have been handed over, and NC is referencing it. And it's not a job loss - it's not being party to a decision which could be affected by your personal interest cf councillors not participating in planning decisions re their neighbours. She can sit on other tribunal (lucky them)

NW

... making incorrect assumptions about her views and her we have a recusal application based on wild assumptions. It is staggering that no authorities have been presented. No case law. There is the fair-minded informed observer would think. This app alleges actual bias. No authorities on this...

I am waiting on authorities to be sent down. May I obtain the authorities so you are properly guided on the legal test. If it is granted there are serious consequences for everyone in this room and therefore the decision...

.. should be made fully informed of the authorities. May I have a ten minute break to get the authorities.
J given R wasn't informed last night and the court wasn't informed until quarter past 11 this morning about the application I am minded to grant this. Do you have...

She said something in the bundle that they only saw this morning, but not sure what that was?
The email addresses?

Companies House history is odd. See NI050154
Lots of companies set up 2004/5; dissolved 2010-13; nothing since

Enterprising Womens Network NI051682 is a good starting point.

But the case is about SM and the BFF, Prof Boyd's employment status is presumably secure.
Her status as an objective, neutral panel member, however.....

If a panel member has beliefs that are in direct opposition to the claimants beliefs (and relevant to the case) in a case that they are on a panel for, they need to declare a conflict of interest. Not to mention the being part of an organisation involved in the case. It's not her beliefs that is the issue (necessarily) nor her role in the organisation it's her failure to disclose these factors and allow the courts to decide if she is an appropriate panel member given that disclosed conflict.

Time for a hamilton gif

I wanna be in the room where it happens

NW

... any objections NC.
NC no and if SD wants longer that's fine if it's okay with you
J okay... SD perhaps quarter past?
J okay quarter past 2

[Sheesh....]

Any evidence of recent deletion of social media presence would be pretty damning.

Wonder how one would go about proving this? If you delete an x account, do your posts still appear on other's timelines as 'deleted'?

And declaration of any potential conflict is an ongoing thing. So if Boyd wasn't aware that the organisation she has a role in was involved in the emails until she saw the evidence, at that point she should have told the Judge. Which she apparently didn't do.

I'll say it again

THIS IS HIGH DRAMA!!!

She’s calmed down significantly as Naomi started painting her picture of all the pieces of apparent bias.

The problem here isn’t us being late Judge, it’s you hiding bias isn’t it now Judge?

I have been in meetings where I have a conflict of interest. I've declared it and been asked to leave the room while a decision is made on the issue where I have a conflict. It's not rocket science, frankly. You need this for fairness in the justice system more than anywhere else.

I mean if there was ever a Tribunal to be at…..

Is this her?

www.clydeco.com/en/people/b/deborah-boyd?section=profile

Is it going to be non-binary niece syndrome?

I suspect if recusal not granted they will go straight to appeal.

There is the wayback machine.

IANAL. but I think it’s the non disclosure of her involvement (in a very senior role) that is the issue over and above any actual bias she may have. .