Sara Morrison vs Belfast Film Festival - Thread 2

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Continuation of previous thread - don’t have all the details to hand to add here, so if someone can pop them on, pls do! Want to get this up quickly!

From NW

[J and panel rises to consider the application]

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So if it is the very successful waste management entrepreneur DB, and she is part of some women-in-business networks, who are affiliated in some way to one of the organisations who got the email about SM... isn't that a bit of a reach?
Storm in a teacup?

Her observable and observed reaction to 'transwomen are men' is a different matter, though.

This must be her then - Professor probably an honorary title www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/life/the-golden-girls/28534941.html

Was Prof Boyd just sitting there while this was going on?

'NC [goes back to Boyd's agitation and departure earlier this week] suggests this might give the appearance of bias to the journalist who approached us and possibly others'

I mean, surely this nails it. If a journo came to them with the concerns it's reasonable to think others might have similar concerns...

Exactly! It's nuts, the respondent's witnesses were proving Sara's case for her in every sentence. Why would she take a punt at this point when it could fuck her own case

That's as far as I got. And whatever sort of Prof you are, the university likes to plaster its site with your publications, etc, because it gets kudos/ultimately funding because of them. Also demonstrates 'impact' of the research

So that was 2010, so she's a 65 year old Deborah Boyd from Amargh now. That and the waste thing might narrow searches down quite a bit.

So if it is the very successful waste management entrepreneur DB, and she is part of some women-in-business networks, who are affiliated in some way to one of the organisations who got the email about SM... isn't that a bit of a reach?
Storm in a teacup?

I think NC is saying it's the lack of online footprint which is suspicious - perhaps DB removed everything which would demonstrate her strong pro-GII views? Worse than having GII views and not attempting to conceal them, you would think.

Edited for clarity

Someone just posted on x

'As we all know, the Internet is forever.
If Prof. Deborah Boyd has carried out extensive housekeeping of her s.m it will come out. Always does.

So how can the Judge risk that?
She can't.
Therefore, the application must be granted.'

Can I buy a lot of popcorn instead and book a back row seat for the fireworks?

Not sure if this has been answered.

Recusals are held in front of the case judge because they have to decide to stop their case.

Judges are expected to recuse themselves if they are asked and it's valid. Sometimes a judge may not have realised their bias.

To not recuse themselves is contempt of court and if the Court of Appeal says she should have recused herself then that would be a bad mark. NC ABSOLUTELY WILL APPEAL the whole case on these grounds if the Judge doesn't recuse the panel. And the judge won't want that because her behaviour will be scrutinised.

So unless the judge is a million per cent sure (or convinced she can't possibly be biased) she's not biased she should recuse.

Rule of law, respect for the court etc.

But if, rather than being an academic who has scrubbed her online profile (extraordinarily hard to do, you can't delete your publications from the internet), she is a non-academic with (or indeed without...) a visiting or honorary professorship somewhere, then she may well never have had an online presence. I do hope Naomi has more than we've yet heard.

Ooh, thanks for that! Fingers crossed.

My digging found this picture of Deborah Boyd in an Invest NI publication - perhaps one of the observers could say if it is her in the room? If so then her connections to the organisation mentioned by NC are correct as the report includes a disclosure of interest (so she does know about them....) Deborah Boyd was a Board member of
Enterprising Women Network (Armagh and
Portadown) to September 2005, which received
£8,000 (2005: nil) of financial assistance
payments from Invest NI.

DB has a considerable online presence for being a successful, award-winning entrepreneur and supporter of women in business.
There's lots of references to her.
Now if NC is claiming that alongside her thriving career as an environmental expert, she is also publicly TWAW, that's another matter...

I know there are at least 2 here. And a few more people with laptops or notebooks who could be.

The image pending is a photo and description of her work from 2005 which mentions being an employment tribunal member then so she'd have 20 odd years of experience.

That's her. The chances of there being two Deborah Boyds on Trinunals in Northern Ireland are very remote.

Employment tribunal members are appointed until retirement so it's not unusual to find one with 20+ years experience.

I used to work with someone who became a judge and was asked to recuse himself (on very good grounds). When his refusal became public there was a dreadful row and it became obvious that he was not well

Awks

Yes this is her.

She sat through the whole thing scowling and at one point she sat back and gave NC the dirtiest look.

Agree - I was indicating she is an experienced panellist and should be well aware of the recusancy rules.