No. He definitely didn't say that, he said several times words to the effect that it was his job to make patients comfortable, and that they could ask for a different clinician for a number of reasons.
One difficulty was around whether he would directly declare or acknowledge that he was trans if a woman asked for a female clinician. (extract from tribunal tweets substack)
"NC Some patients will read u as F
DU Yes, they read me as a woman or F. I dont discuss my T history w them
NC Some patients may be drunk, on drugs, have an eye injury and I'm suggesting yr self evidently male. But some may not observe this
JR I object. It's irrelevant suggesting DU is sexually assaulting ppl, that's no tan issue. This isnt a roving injuiry into T drs and SS spaces
JR JT saying DU is obviously male is erroneous as y'll see in the previous documents. [reads out prev from Judge Timmiom]
J It's not reasonable or practicable that I cant ask the witness Qs that I want. The sequence may be opaque, that's how X exam works. JR objected constantly
NC yday and has done so 10 mins in today. I note you always allowed the Qs. I hope u say these interventions aren't reasonable. I didnt interupt when her X was irrelevant or even abusive. I let her do her job.
J I won't tell her to do that. And I didnt stop all her intervention
J It's not approp to stop her objecting. I may say something if approp. It isnt clear how this Q is working so will allow it at this point
NC I'm grateful but finding my task hampered by her interuptions
J It's part of litigation though as we know
NC We will go v slowly then
NC Do u agree that it's obvious yr male and some AE patients it wont be obv yr male
DU I dont beleive being drunk affects yr ability to identify a T person, state of intoxiccation. Me being T isn't obv to everybody, maybe to some
NC What if a woman asks to see a F dr
DU I dont see i have to give personal info to patients. I have no obligation to do that. There's no reason to. I dont see that.
NC What about a rape survivor wanting an actual W and not a TW?
DU I dont accept actual woman. I assume u mean c1s woman. ANyone can exp sexual violence, and it can be taken into account within limits of providing care in an emerg situation
NC It follows, that her wish for a F dr, a F patient wld be expected to reveal her sex trauma?
DU No any patient can refuse to see a dr. [gives an eg of a racial patient and staff issue] we accom as much as possible, w/out giving reasons
NC Imagine a woman in AE has unexplained heavy bleeding and says wants a F dr, is it ok for u to be asigned to see her?
DU It depends on the history. Catastriphic means resus, but otherwise short history and to O&G.
NC Imagine later and short history. Is she entitled to F for history
DU If she wanted me to leave, I would and get someone else. Consent is v important and take pat's wishes
seriously. dont want to impose suffering
NC So it's up to her to sya I dont feel comfy w you?
DU That's how it works. U dont know if she'd accept a TW. Y'd explain how exam works and stopping when patient wants to. Our job to make ppl comfy. It's approp for a dr to see this pat
DU Yes I consider myself empathic
NC But u think a woman in that sitn who has asked for a F dr, who realsies yr a male as she's distressed or only slowly realsises yr male. Using empathy, do u not see is v cruel?
DU Consulting rooms and cubicles so not necess in a separateroom
DU ANy person of any GI can experience or undertake sexual trauma. They often dont disclose this, whoever they are. Every single clinician wld have to say "this is my sex, GI, are u happy w me" I apprec they might find it hard to see me. My job is gathering info and treating
ppl
NC Long speech
JR It was a long Q
NC U said wasnt a given wld be in a room w you,
DU Not a gynae room but ent room used [listing all the rooms which NC cuts off]
J U can aske me to stop a Q but not do it yrself
NC Please do
DU there's no specific gynae room "
This is part of a line of questioning that leads into a different angle than we are discussing here, but I think this extract is the key part that relates to your question?
My impression, after following almost all of the Feb tribunal, is that both Sandie and Beth are well liked by many of their their respective colleagues. It's clear from the witness testimonies that some don't like Sandie's political views, and that some (other than Sandie) don't like Beth being allowed in the women's changing rooms. But I don't think there is evidence that either of them have or would behave unprofessionally beyond the specific complaints and issues raised at the tribunal.