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NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #27

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nauticant · 13/07/2025 08:26

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and was expected to last 2 weeks. However, after 2 weeks it was not complete and it adjourned part-heard. It will resume on 16 July and the last day of evidence will be 28 July and then there will be 2 days of submissions from counsel meaning that the hearing will end on 30 July.

The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton gave evidence from Thursday 6 February to Wednesday 12 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely was obtainable by sending an email request to [email protected] by 5pm on Wednesday 9 July. Detailed instructions wereFri provided here:

drive.google.com/file/d/16-9POEZ7yHWUr6EmbfquJZO18Gv78bSm/view

The hearing is being live tweeted by x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-005. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.ph/WSSjg.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

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Deadcog · 16/07/2025 07:55

If this thread gets locked, I think others will just be created. I reckon the best course of action is to report sabotaging posts and not engage.

JazzyJelly · 16/07/2025 07:56

I can't see how it can go against her, given the SC ruling, and yet now it's here, I'm nervous.

Best of luck to Sandie, we're all with you!

mateysmum · 16/07/2025 07:57

Task list for this morning

Early Tesco shop so I can be back for the start ✔
Popcorn at the ready✔
bingo card✔
soft cushion in place to hit head against✔
Prop to support dropped jaw✔
Anger management pills✔

now I'm all set for the tribunal. 😁

EternalLodga · 16/07/2025 07:57

It absolutely sucks that we cant watch along. How hard is it to just set up a live cam and give people a link?! No need to have a convoluted log in process

Seriestwo · 16/07/2025 08:00

I suspect this is going to be electrifying.

the potential for consequences reaching John Swinney are higher than your average employment tribunal - I have no background in law or HR and I am hooked.

i am particularly interested in what Dr Upton will be wearing as there is no need for scarves to hide faces in the summer.

Igneococcus · 16/07/2025 08:03

I bet there will be a lot more journalists watching/in the audience than the first time.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 16/07/2025 08:05

Seriestwo · 16/07/2025 08:00

I suspect this is going to be electrifying.

the potential for consequences reaching John Swinney are higher than your average employment tribunal - I have no background in law or HR and I am hooked.

i am particularly interested in what Dr Upton will be wearing as there is no need for scarves to hide faces in the summer.

I don't think Upton will be attending unless recalled for cross examination regarding what has been found on his phone.

Jaws2025 · 16/07/2025 08:06

Morning or afternoon? I have read both on here and can't find where I saw the time!

Shetlands · 16/07/2025 08:06

Sending all good wishes to Sandie today. 💐

I wonder if she realises how many of us will be ignoring avoiding postponing also doing household chores, work commitments etc while following proceedings. 😎

BezMills · 16/07/2025 08:12

Mon Sandie! Mon Naomi!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/07/2025 08:15

Abroad so can’t watch this time, will be following TT and here. Good luck to Sandie and her team, not least brilliant Naomi! Let’s go to work!

Needspaceforlego · 16/07/2025 08:15

Good luck Sandie,

I'll catch up later, just started a new job so can't get away with getting engrossed in this stuff today.

ArabellaScott · 16/07/2025 08:15

Sandie cleared of all allegations.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/25316918.sandie-peggie-cleared-gross-misconduct-allegations/

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/07/2025 08:16

Oh wow!

ArabellaScott · 16/07/2025 08:16

'A nurse at the centre of a high-profile tribunal case has been cleared of all internal disciplinary charges, including allegations of patient care failures and claims she had misgendered Dr Beth Upton, a trans woman doctor, in a changing room in the Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy.

In a statement, Ms Peggie's solicitor, Margaret Gribbon, said: “On Tuesday, 14th July, the evening before the resuming of her tribunal, Sandie Peggie received confirmation from Fife Health Board that following a disciplinary hearing, none of the gross misconduct allegations against her were upheld.

“This follows a disciplinary hearing on 25th June, which considered four gross misconduct allegations: two relating to patient care failures, one of ‘misgendering’ Dr Upton, and one relating to her encounter with Dr Upton in the workplace female-only changing room on Christmas Eve 2023.

“Sandie is relieved and delighted that this 18-month-long internal process has concluded and cleared her of all allegations.”'

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 16/07/2025 08:17

So they've admitted the allegations were false? Shouldn't this now come back to Dr Upton?

alsoFanOfNaomi · 16/07/2025 08:18

Goodness! So how do they handle their defence now? We honestly thought she had committed gross misconduct, do they say?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/07/2025 08:18

I wonder what effect this will have on the case?

DeanElderberry · 16/07/2025 08:18

huck
ing
fell

about bloody time, but what happens next?

GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 16/07/2025 08:18

Excellent news. And rather undermining for Fife's position. Bring it on.

ArabellaScott · 16/07/2025 08:19

Cannot imagine how this is going to pan out. At all. 😂

mzdemeanour · 16/07/2025 08:19

ArabellaScott · 16/07/2025 08:15

Sandie cleared of all allegations.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/25316918.sandie-peggie-cleared-gross-misconduct-allegations/

Edited

Any lawyers able to say if/how this might affect the soon to resume proceedings?

Shortshriftandlethal · 16/07/2025 08:20

Maybe they are hoping she won't bring her own charges against them.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 16/07/2025 08:21

ArabellaScott · 16/07/2025 08:15

Sandie cleared of all allegations.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/25316918.sandie-peggie-cleared-gross-misconduct-allegations/

Edited

A statement from Contemporaneous Notes

... Nice ...

alsoFanOfNaomi · 16/07/2025 08:21

Michael Foran writes "It will be interesting to see if this will change the approach of counsel for NHS Fife and Dr Upton in the Tribunal." Indeed.

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