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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mr Maugham shares his thoughts on feminism.

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ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:15

I knew you'd all be keen to hear them.

https://x.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1927695317111033978

"It is the responsibility of a feminist to be progressive, to learn from previous waves but to always be pushing towards a new one. “Feminism must be intersectional. Feminism must not be used to bully and berate both cis women and trans people.”

https://x.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1927695317111033978

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ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:16

In other news:

theonion.com/man-finally-put-in-charge-of-struggling-feminist-moveme-1819569515/

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ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:19

Just listening to the song he linked.

'I feel no threat from any trans person that might be in the toilets, I’ve never felt threatened by a trans person as it turns out.'

Well, I'm glad for you, Kate. And fuck the women who have, eh?!

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SirChenjins · 28/05/2025 15:20

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:15

I knew you'd all be keen to hear them.

https://x.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1927695317111033978

"It is the responsibility of a feminist to be progressive, to learn from previous waves but to always be pushing towards a new one. “Feminism must be intersectional. Feminism must not be used to bully and berate both cis women and trans people.”

Thank you, Mr Fox Batterer - as a woman, it's always a pleasure watching a man dispensing the wisdom of a fool.

JellySaurus · 28/05/2025 15:20

It's OK girls, we can all go back to the kitchen.

Mr Maugham shares his thoughts on feminism.
ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:21

More:

'91% of people prosecuted for sexual offenses are cis men aged 18+. The biggest threat to cis women sadly comes from cis men. These stats from Rape Crisis'

I've never seen stats disaggregated for 'cis' and 'trans' males. Anyone else?

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GCAcademic · 28/05/2025 15:21

Do these people ever hear themselves?

DeanElderberry · 28/05/2025 15:22

"thoughts"

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:23

JellySaurus · 28/05/2025 15:20

It's OK girls, we can all go back to the kitchen.

Jolyon will make special dispensation for the input of women who make videos like Kate's, I assume.

Plenty of T&A and a catchy beat.

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potpourree · 28/05/2025 15:25

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:21

More:

'91% of people prosecuted for sexual offenses are cis men aged 18+. The biggest threat to cis women sadly comes from cis men. These stats from Rape Crisis'

I've never seen stats disaggregated for 'cis' and 'trans' males. Anyone else?

What criteria are they using to distinguish cis people from trans people? Self-reporting, like IW saying they're a cis woman?

Or is there some other difference?

DeanElderberry · 28/05/2025 15:28

The MN emojis don't include a baseball bat but I did my best to make a display appropriate for kimono man

        😡 🏏  🐺  🏓😡
DeanElderberry · 28/05/2025 15:28

Gosh, I like the black bar! How did that happen?

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:31

potpourree · 28/05/2025 15:25

What criteria are they using to distinguish cis people from trans people? Self-reporting, like IW saying they're a cis woman?

Or is there some other difference?

Well, here's the RapeCrisis front page:

https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/statistics-sexual-violence/

'91%of people prosecuted for sexual offences are men aged 18+'

The stats sources are in a separate pdf:

'91% of people prosecuted for sexual offences are men aged 18+
Source: Office for National Statistics (2018)
Publication:
www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/datasets/sexualoffe
ndingministryofjusticeappendixtables
How did we get to these figures?
As Table 2 in this ONS dataset of compiled Ministry of Justice appendix tables shows, in the year
ending December 2017:
• 11,311 people were prosecuted for sexual offences in total.
• 10,317 of these were men aged 18 and over (826 were aged 18-20; 1,100 were aged 21-
24; 8,391 were aged 25+).
• 657 were young men and boys aged 12-17.'

Source:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/datasets/sexualoffendingministryofjusticeappendixtables

There is no mention of 'cis' or 'trans' anywhere in these stats. They state 'sex' and age, and that's it.

So it seems that mysterious 'cis' word has somehow just appeared out of nowhere!

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RedToothBrush · 28/05/2025 15:32

A man mansplaining that feminism isn't about centring women, it's about including men and this is progressive.

Facepalm.

Dickhead.

murasaki · 28/05/2025 15:33

There is absolutely no limit to the number of times I can enjoy that cartoon.

teawamutu · 28/05/2025 15:33

Kate Nash. The one who funds her tours via Only fans because she's soooo sex positive and progressive and whatnot?

Sounds like exactly who should be advising on human rights for half the population.

Still more qualified than Jolly, obvs, but only barely.

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:34

Nash's song's central conceit is apparently calling 'gender critical' feminists 'germs'. Because dehumanisation is so hot right now.

(It also doesn't really make sense, Kate.)

'Girl
You’re not radical
Exclusionary regressive misogynist
Germ! Germ'

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nauticant · 28/05/2025 15:35

Here are the lyrics from the song: https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/katenash/germ.html

It's an attempt at relevancy. Otherwise she'll have to continue to raise money on OnlyFans.

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:35

'Women are facing serious dangers, not during boxing matches or from trans people needing a piss but from actual violence'

Being punched in the face is actual violence.

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Helleofabore · 28/05/2025 15:36

JellySaurus · 28/05/2025 15:20

It's OK girls, we can all go back to the kitchen.

JELLY! I have been looking for that gif everywhere.

I have wanted to use it so very often!
Thank you

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:36

According to End Violence Against Women, every 3 days a woman is killed by a man. More than 100,000 girls are at risk and living with the consequences of FGM, forced marriage and honour based abuse

Yes. It's horrific. I'm grateful for Nash for getting this info out there. It's a shame its bookended by a lot of garbled pish.

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Datun · 28/05/2025 15:36

Is there a word for the louder someone shouts the more irrelevant they become?

nauticant · 28/05/2025 15:37

Kate Nash was on Woman's Hour recently attempting a sort of relaunch. I hadn't realised she was such an idiot.

Helleofabore · 28/05/2025 15:37

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:36

According to End Violence Against Women, every 3 days a woman is killed by a man. More than 100,000 girls are at risk and living with the consequences of FGM, forced marriage and honour based abuse

Yes. It's horrific. I'm grateful for Nash for getting this info out there. It's a shame its bookended by a lot of garbled pish.

Those stats are horrifying.

RedToothBrush · 28/05/2025 15:38

Datun · 28/05/2025 15:36

Is there a word for the louder someone shouts the more irrelevant they become?

Yes.

It's dickhead.

Once a dickhead, always a dickhead.

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 15:39

You say a cigar is a cigar But a cigar cannot be compared to a human being can it you fucking idiot

Eh?

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