NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #6

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 January 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2

Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3

Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4

Thread 5: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269149-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-5

Indeed. I have been approached several times in my career to interview for NHS HR roles and haven’t and wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole, on the basis that I consider myself competent at my job and couldn’t stand to act the way the HR teams in NHS seem to.

I don't understand this either. Literally the first thing we did every day at school was to draw a line across the page under the previous day's work in our exercise books, and write today's date (top right, underlined with a ruler). It's about as basic as admin gets.

People filing in the room now.

Glenn Close as NC? David Tennant as DU?

The start of people entering the room

@datun but if the exact same man used the female changing room without uttering the magic words, he would not be allowed in there and the woman's complaint would be immediately upheld.

Powerful things, magic words.

He's played a comedy transvestite before, in the days when he wasn't consumed by his own moral piety.

Ohh something happening

Frozen home-made choc-chip cookies, pre-portioned in scoops and ready to be whisked straight into the oven, are very useful in these circumstances, I find.

Just saying.

David Tennant is far too small. I think Greg Davies would be much better.
edit: because I've read Dr U is 6ft 6

Thank you to everyone taking notes on this, it's much appreciated!

I'm enjoying this tribunal very much and am looking forward to NC getting to gnaw on DU.

David Tennant is far too small. I think Greg Davies would be much better.

Tom Davies would be good...

Is DU not coming back today?

NC they have found another 4 emails.

Oh what a surprise

Ooh paginated!

Ooh do I win with 2.24 pm?

MSF = multi source feedback

Basically we have to ask our colleagues to anonymously fill out questionnaires about our performance. As a trainee it was in every job. As a GP it is every 5 years. Not sure what the situation is for hospital clinical fellows.

He doesn't need to return until Monday for NC's cross.

JR: ED was not an investigator and did not carry out any kind of investigation. She just received emails and documents.

ED - Esther Davidson, SP's line manager

Is JR hoping for a sticker?

She's come back very upbeat and clearly hoping to explain this all away as minor admin issues.

Yes, she's playing lick arse, complete with fake laughing...

J making clear that he really does wonder if ED was investigating! JR struggling :)

Judge to JR - well it might be obvious to you ...
JR - tinkly laugh

You'd think he'd want to be there to see what was going on. I certainly would!!