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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board - thread #2

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nauticant · 04/02/2025 11:37

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 January 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks.

First thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

It's being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr

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Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 13:43

I feel like a stalker!

Harassedevictee · 04/02/2025 13:43

@nauticant well said. I would hate for TT or the remote access to be withdrawn because of inappropriate comments on this thread.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 04/02/2025 13:43

I love her. She's brilliant.

DemeraraAbyss · 04/02/2025 13:43

GCITC · 04/02/2025 13:35

How could you forget the person who required an emotional support dog and 3 support people in the Bailey case?!

Weren’t they non-binary?

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 04/02/2025 13:44

I agree @Harassedevictee

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 13:44

DemeraraAbyss · 04/02/2025 13:43

Weren’t they non-binary?

The dog? Or...

DemeraraAbyss · 04/02/2025 13:46

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 13:44

The dog? Or...

Probably both

GCITC · 04/02/2025 13:47

DemeraraAbyss · 04/02/2025 13:43

Weren’t they non-binary?

Yes, I think you're right. My mistake.

nauticant · 04/02/2025 13:47

Harassedevictee · 04/02/2025 13:43

@nauticant well said. I would hate for TT or the remote access to be withdrawn because of inappropriate comments on this thread.

Thanks. I posted my warning simply out of wanting the hearing to run smoothly and there not being opportunities for Peggie's case to be disrupted by external matters.

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PepeParapluie · 04/02/2025 13:49

I find it so depressing that women, including JR, all know how intimidating it is or would be to find oneself alone in a changing room with a male person (whatever their identity). As women, we instinctively know that. We’ve almost certainly all had a time when the presence of a male person has caused us discomfort for whatever reason. Yet here, poor nurse Peggie is being made out to be some awful bully for (a) feeling that and (b) having the audacity to say something about it.

Dr Upton didn’t need to do anything to be intimidating, it’s an act of intimidation to be a male person in a single sex female space.

Every case I feel like the world has gone mad and can’t get more mad, and yet every time I’m shocked again.

Rightsraptor · 04/02/2025 13:50

Thank you, @weebisom, for the clarification.

(Have I been watching too many courtroom dramas again?)

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 13:52

Anyone else currently looking at a bearded bloke on his mobile?

WhoPutTheBomp · 04/02/2025 13:52

nauticant · 04/02/2025 13:47

Thanks. I posted my warning simply out of wanting the hearing to run smoothly and there not being opportunities for Peggie's case to be disrupted by external matters.

Understood, Nauticant. Thank you for the reminder.

ickky · 04/02/2025 13:52

Is Ian Wilson taking a picture of their screen?

Rightsraptor · 04/02/2025 13:53

Yes, I was too Boiled!

WhoPutTheBomp · 04/02/2025 13:53

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 13:52

Anyone else currently looking at a bearded bloke on his mobile?

👀

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 13:53

tribunal clerk " "Mr Wilson please turn your camera off" 😂

FlowchartRequired · 04/02/2025 13:53

WearyAuldWumman · 04/02/2025 13:41

I think he's ditched the beard.

Yes, I think those are 'pre-transition' photos.

nauticant · 04/02/2025 13:53

ickky · 04/02/2025 13:52

Is Ian Wilson taking a picture of their screen?

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It sure looked like it. That's a massive self-own.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/02/2025 13:53

ickky · 04/02/2025 13:52

Is Ian Wilson taking a picture of their screen?

Edited

It did look rather like that Hmm

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/02/2025 13:54

We should probably keep people's names out of it, guys.

nauticant · 04/02/2025 13:55

That's a fair point too.

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Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 13:55

Just waiting on the panel members returning at this point. Everyone else is sat ready and waiting.

DemeraraAbyss · 04/02/2025 13:55

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/02/2025 13:53

It did look rather like that Hmm

Who is that? An observer or someone in court?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/02/2025 13:56

Looks like the individual with their camera on has been booted

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