NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board - thread #2

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 January 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks.

First thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

It's being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr

Why don't they only let people in who've chosen 'observer'? Why are they letting people in who've chosen any of the other options?

URGENT

Poor compliance from remote observers is looking like it might end remote access for all observers. Please can everyone turn off cameras and microphones on joining the conference.

It's not very Open Justice-y, though.

But i see your point.

I'm a member of TT, currently in the hearing room. Judge is saying he will eliminate remote access altogether if the disruption continues.

Back in the room.

Not that I like the thing, but is there a reason why they can't just use MS Teams?

Hopefully you're all good to carry on observing. I think the panel might clock somebody with a dry wig...drying their wig.

Can they not mute people on entry? This was clearly a deliberate sabotage.

Can anyone explain that there will be deliberate attempts to sabotage it in the pursuit of closed justice?

Even if it is deliberate....

Why wouldn't TRAs want this observed? Surely they're certain of Dr Upton's right to change in the female changing room, whatever Dr Upton looks like?

Sabotage or just complete stupidity?

Looks like everyone is muted this time

Back in, judge and panel are out of the room

Why on Earth can the not put it on a webinar type setting - where you can only watch and comment in the chat box?

Woohoo, everyone has been muted!

That should be the default setting, really.

on the plus side I've just got my mirror cleaned and trying in the unexpected break!

Panel back now

I can't see a single reason why you would need people to not be muted.

Judge addressing us.

required to turn off camera and microphone.

you've had a number of interruption if continues may have to cease remote viewing

Sorry if this has been asked, I'm behind in the thread by several pages - I've just tried for the first time to join (work forbidding up to now) using a link supplied last week by Edinburgh, and I've been able to enter the pin and pick Observer, but I just get a silent screen with a white background, a coat of arms and a fuzzy blue box which looks as though if I could read it it would have the warning that it's a criminal offence to broadcast etc. Does this seem like something that is expected so that I should just stay here, or is it a sign that I need to ask for a new link from Dundee, or what? Anyone know?

Theres a few not muted - I hope they can keep quiet

They probably came in later.

They've been having a nightmare this afternoon, we all keep getting kicked out.

I'd wait - you are probably waiting in the lobby

I can't find any option to mute myself