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Tommy Robinson and Let Women Speak

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eatfigs · 04/06/2024 11:40

I've only read about this on Twitter so there's a chance this is being taken out of context, but it looks like Let Women Speak were part of Tommy Robinson's rally in London this past weekend:

https://x.com/shularises/status/1797585248580186511

https://x.com/GappyTales/status/1797611080212205988

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1796931835823362392

This doesn't sit right with me at all. I've been to LWS events and thought I knew what they were about. I've argued against the guilt-by-association tactics that some activists use against LWS when male intruders have turned up to the events, like the neo-Nazis in Melbourne.

But here we see the opposite, LWS deliberately attending far-right fascist marches. This seems inexcusable to me.

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https://x.com/shularises/status/1797585248580186511

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Mrsjayy · 04/06/2024 11:43

If he was there he is just trying to attach himself to something that will give him clout. he is an absolute thug and I wouldn't be able to resign myself to anything he is involved with.

ItsFunToBeAVampire · 04/06/2024 11:49

It was mentioned on another thread.
Apparently, you can buy the flyers from KJK's online shop, so anyone can buy them.
As far as I know, LWS were not there, just someone who has bought the flyers, so I can't see how it's her fault.

GreenishTinge · 04/06/2024 11:51

How can LWS attend anything? Apart from high vis for the stewards there isn't really a recognisable LWS. We are just women who go along and speak and listen.

So unless you're telling me KJK went you'll have to try harder to put me off.

I only followed the Andy Ngo link. Almost every time I hear about Gappy Tales on here it's scolding KJK so I can't be bothered unless it's a pic of KJK embracing SYL.

SinnerBoy · 04/06/2024 11:51

Mrsjayy · Today 11:43

If he was there he is just trying to attach himself to something that will give him clout.

Yes, i doubt that it's been sanctioned and more likely that someone has asked for a bunch of leaflets and is handing them out like that, rather than LWS approving of it. A bit like when a woman asked if they could film an LWS event and it turned out to be Hearts of Oak.

The frothing after that was quite something, she had no idea who they were.

Mrsjayy · 04/06/2024 11:52

Mrsjayy · 04/06/2024 11:43

If he was there he is just trying to attach himself to something that will give him clout. he is an absolute thug and I wouldn't be able to resign myself to anything he is involved with.

Oh it was the other way around I mis read. I don't think I could support anybody who was at a Tommy Robinson event whatsoever.

simmertime · 04/06/2024 12:05

LWS deliberately attending - what does this even mean? Was KJK there? Or just some randomer who had some LWS flyers?

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 12:10

Shocker: Some flyers I agree with were given to some people I disagree with.

By we don't know who.

Another terrible scandal women must atone for.

Or a normal event in a democracy?

fedupandstuck · 04/06/2024 12:17

@eatfigs do you mean that KJK was there and marching/speaking alongside Tommy Robinson?

The links you've provided show some LWS leaflets in a Primark, and someone holding the same kind of leaflets (which anyone can apparently buy from the LWS website) in a crowd. How does that make LWS "attendees" at this march?? It means that one person apparently took some leaflets along. How could KJK/LWS prevent that, if the leaflets are publicly available?

lcakethereforeIam · 04/06/2024 12:28

They had a pride stand...in the kid's department!!

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 12:41

LWS supporters shop in Primark?!

We'll find out next someone who went to a LWS event holidays in Dubai.

Then I really am denouncing kjk on twitter.

Username947531 · 04/06/2024 12:52

I don't have an issue with it. It was a legal, democratic march. Would you have had the same issue if the leaflets were handed out at a Labour rally?

Also, until last week I thought TR was a racist thug. I then listened to his speech to the Oxford Union and watched his documentary and realised I'd been totally wrong. Watch them before you condemn him.

eatfigs · 04/06/2024 12:55

He is a racist thug, no doubt about that.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jul/25/english-defence-league-founder-brawl

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OldCrone · 04/06/2024 12:57

This is the image from the first tweet in the OP.

Apparently it's in a Primark Pride display in London.

No idea what this has to do with Tommy Robinson.

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PeppercornMill · 04/06/2024 13:03

Next we'll be hearing how someone threw one of the flyers in the Thames, and someone will say that KJK supports dumping sewage in the Thames.

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 13:05

AlisonDonut · 04/06/2024 12:58

Anyone can go onto this website and buy 100 of these for £3.50.

https://www.letwomenspeak.org/school-leaflets-a5

KJK should vet who can buy her leaflets.

You don't want riff raff agreeing with you.

nauticant · 04/06/2024 13:07

KJK was supporting neo-Nazis in New Zealand. The other day she was supporting Trump. Now she's supporting Tommy Robinson.

Is this a direction of travel of her becoming kinder?

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 13:09

Username947531 · 04/06/2024 12:52

I don't have an issue with it. It was a legal, democratic march. Would you have had the same issue if the leaflets were handed out at a Labour rally?

Also, until last week I thought TR was a racist thug. I then listened to his speech to the Oxford Union and watched his documentary and realised I'd been totally wrong. Watch them before you condemn him.

Someone recommended I watch TR's Oxford Union address, when I said I found him a racist dangerous personality.

I haven't done, but now reserve some judgement on him, as I'm aware that I haven't explored all evidence and there may be more to him & his position than what I have so far been exposed to. (whihc is the kind of thing OP has shared).

AlisonDonut · 04/06/2024 13:09

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 13:05

KJK should vet who can buy her leaflets.

You don't want riff raff agreeing with you.

It should be quite a simple captcha:

'Tick all the boxes with the correct purity political crocheted post box toppers in it'

AlisonDonut · 04/06/2024 13:13

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 13:09

Someone recommended I watch TR's Oxford Union address, when I said I found him a racist dangerous personality.

I haven't done, but now reserve some judgement on him, as I'm aware that I haven't explored all evidence and there may be more to him & his position than what I have so far been exposed to. (whihc is the kind of thing OP has shared).

Barry Wall, he a gay man, has published a micro teach on this very topic this morning.

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Taciturn · 04/06/2024 13:16

The rally was a premiere of a TR film about two tier policing. Women have experienced two tiered policing as well.

And we really to have a rethink about tribalism. Perhaps watch the film before commenting further.

Username947531 · 04/06/2024 13:30

Taciturn · 04/06/2024 13:16

The rally was a premiere of a TR film about two tier policing. Women have experienced two tiered policing as well.

And we really to have a rethink about tribalism. Perhaps watch the film before commenting further.

Exactly. I found the documentary very enlightening and fact based. Not inflammatory and it was good journalism.

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 13:34

Taciturn · 04/06/2024 13:16

The rally was a premiere of a TR film about two tier policing. Women have experienced two tiered policing as well.

And we really to have a rethink about tribalism. Perhaps watch the film before commenting further.

Yes, let's give racist far-right "personality" Steven Yaxley-Lennon money. Great plan. Confused

Username947531 · 04/06/2024 13:35

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 13:34

Yes, let's give racist far-right "personality" Steven Yaxley-Lennon money. Great plan. Confused

The documentary is available on line for free or certainly was when I saw it. Perhaps watch it before jumping to conclusions?

Ofcourseshecan · 04/06/2024 13:44

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 13:34

Yes, let's give racist far-right "personality" Steven Yaxley-Lennon money. Great plan. Confused

Let’s listen to what people actually say instead of what people say about them? Good idea.

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