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Tommy Robinson and Let Women Speak

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eatfigs · 04/06/2024 11:40

I've only read about this on Twitter so there's a chance this is being taken out of context, but it looks like Let Women Speak were part of Tommy Robinson's rally in London this past weekend:

https://x.com/shularises/status/1797585248580186511

https://x.com/GappyTales/status/1797611080212205988

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1796931835823362392

This doesn't sit right with me at all. I've been to LWS events and thought I knew what they were about. I've argued against the guilt-by-association tactics that some activists use against LWS when male intruders have turned up to the events, like the neo-Nazis in Melbourne.

But here we see the opposite, LWS deliberately attending far-right fascist marches. This seems inexcusable to me.

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Hatfullofwillow · 04/06/2024 18:04

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Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

It's possible to be both concerned about safeguarding and concerned about neo-Nazis, like the ones who co-opted a LWT event in Melbourne last month.

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 18:04

Anyway, enjoy the denial.

TinselAngel · 04/06/2024 18:04

Don't see far right marches as the ideal place to "spread the message"?
I'm baffled by this idea that giving somebody a leaflet, presumably to persuade them of something you think, means that you secretly agree with whatever they think.

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 18:05

Datun · 04/06/2024 18:02

Haha!! You're now telling me that you're worried about what the general public think of Posie Parker, after slagging her off for hundreds of posts!! 😂

Yes it's getting so weird...
People starting threads over and over worried that the general public will think badly of KJK!

Or more weirdly, that TR fans will think KJK is homophobic !
Such a worry for these posters 😂.

Datun · 04/06/2024 18:07

TinselAngel · 04/06/2024 18:04

Don't see far right marches as the ideal place to "spread the message"?
I'm baffled by this idea that giving somebody a leaflet, presumably to persuade them of something you think, means that you secretly agree with whatever they think.

Quite.

Although I'm sure Cassie will be able to point to all sorts of things in that leaflet that, secretly or otherwise, supports what Tommy Robinson does and says.

Of course, she'd have to read it first.

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 18:11

Datun · 04/06/2024 18:04

It's not your bloody branding! It's not your bloody language!

You've got nothing to do with it!

I can observe what the branding and headline messaging implies, can't I? To an uninformed person in the street?

And I can draw conclusions about what an "effective campaigner" like KJK might be hoping to achieve by spreading them about the place during Pride? It's kinda reverse forced teaming. Get the homophobes on board. Recruit the angry gay bathers. Lovely.

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 18:11

There were probably fliers for Reform at the TR March.

@CassieMaddox aren't you appalled that a party whose policies who don't support were giving out leaflets you disagreed with to people you think are reprehensible at an event you were not at?

Start a thread!

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 18:12

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 18:11

There were probably fliers for Reform at the TR March.

@CassieMaddox aren't you appalled that a party whose policies who don't support were giving out leaflets you disagreed with to people you think are reprehensible at an event you were not at?

Start a thread!

Probably. They have common cause.

BackToLurk · 04/06/2024 18:13

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 17:50

Was Lily at the TR march?

I don't think she was. I think she was accused by TRAs of being there

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 18:13

If there was proof reform were handing out leaflets at the TR March I would, believe me.

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 18:15

BackToLurk · 04/06/2024 18:13

I don't think she was. I think she was accused by TRAs of being there

Good. I was a bit confused Confused

Lily putting leaflets in JL is a totally different kettle of fish to being a steward and handing out leaflets at the TR March as the tweet linked says.

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 18:15

I also suspect pro Islam leaflets were given out at Palestine marchs.
Promoting religious views I disagree with, to people who view a political issue differently to me, at a march I didn't go on.

It's outrageous.

I should start a thread, and they should care that I'm upset and rtevsie their tactics.

Hatfullofwillow · 04/06/2024 18:16

TinselAngel · 04/06/2024 18:04

Don't see far right marches as the ideal place to "spread the message"?
I'm baffled by this idea that giving somebody a leaflet, presumably to persuade them of something you think, means that you secretly agree with whatever they think.

They're the perfect place, the term "trans ideology" was created by the Vatican to push back against the whole LGBTQ movement, then adopted by rightwing fundamental christians in the USA. There's clear crossover.

Obviously not every GC is homophobic, or even most, even less so a neo-nazi, but every homophobe & every neo-nazo is probably going to be GC.

It's uncomfortable, but it's worth keeping an eye on.

BackToLurk · 04/06/2024 18:16

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 18:15

I also suspect pro Islam leaflets were given out at Palestine marchs.
Promoting religious views I disagree with, to people who view a political issue differently to me, at a march I didn't go on.

It's outrageous.

I should start a thread, and they should care that I'm upset and rtevsie their tactics.

You might have wanted to think about that post a bit more

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 18:17

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 18:13

If there was proof reform were handing out leaflets at the TR March I would, believe me.

You would complain and start a thread if someone handed out Reform leaflets at a TR march??

When do you sleep?

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 18:18

BackToLurk · 04/06/2024 18:16

You might have wanted to think about that post a bit more

Don't threaten me vaguely.
Say what the problem is.

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 18:18

Hatfullofwillow · 04/06/2024 18:16

They're the perfect place, the term "trans ideology" was created by the Vatican to push back against the whole LGBTQ movement, then adopted by rightwing fundamental christians in the USA. There's clear crossover.

Obviously not every GC is homophobic, or even most, even less so a neo-nazi, but every homophobe & every neo-nazo is probably going to be GC.

It's uncomfortable, but it's worth keeping an eye on.

Thank you, I did not know that

eatfigs · 04/06/2024 18:19

Deny it all you like but this #overtherainbow campaign is bringing out the homophobes:

https://x.com/EmmaDiamonde/status/1797724718864400710

Nobody likes Sodomy Month

#OverTheRainbow

https://x.com/SalopeDeGateau/status/1793390451455586456

🤢 pedophile lanyard

#OverTheRainbow #YourInclusionIsExclusionary

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https://x.com/EmmaDiamonde/status/1797724718864400710

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CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 18:20

😥🤮

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 18:20

BackToLurk · 04/06/2024 18:16

You might have wanted to think about that post a bit more

Unless you weren't clear it's sarcasm?

And it should be obvious to a simpleton that I think anyone should be able to hand out leaflets with views I disagree with at any rallies and I should have no reason to complain and they should have no reason to care what i think about it.

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 18:22

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 18:20

Unless you weren't clear it's sarcasm?

And it should be obvious to a simpleton that I think anyone should be able to hand out leaflets with views I disagree with at any rallies and I should have no reason to complain and they should have no reason to care what i think about it.

Ferret GIF

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334bu · 04/06/2024 18:23

Does the purity spiral only apply to women who don't want men in their female only spaces? Wonder where are all the activists condemning the paedophiles and sexual offenders who appear to be part of the transgender community?

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 18:24

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 18:22

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How is clarifying the post due to vague threats reversing?

I've repeated the same point but without the level of reading comprehension required previously.

If you have an issue with the point make it.

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 18:25

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 18:24

How is clarifying the post due to vague threats reversing?

I've repeated the same point but without the level of reading comprehension required previously.

If you have an issue with the point make it.

If you can't see it there is no point in explaining.

Underthinker · 04/06/2024 18:27

@Hatfullofwillow Obviously not every GC is homophobic, or even most, even less so a neo-nazi, but every homophobe & every neo-nazo is probably going to be GC.

Wait what? How do you figure that out?

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