Tommy Robinson and Let Women Speak

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I've only read about this on Twitter so there's a chance this is being taken out of context, but it looks like Let Women Speak were part of Tommy Robinson's rally in London this past weekend:

https://x.com/shularises/status/1797585248580186511

https://x.com/GappyTales/status/1797611080212205988

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1796931835823362392

This doesn't sit right with me at all. I've been to LWS events and thought I knew what they were about. I've argued against the guilt-by-association tactics that some activists use against LWS when male intruders have turned up to the events, like the neo-Nazis in Melbourne.

But here we see the opposite, LWS deliberately attending far-right fascist marches. This seems inexcusable to me.

Oh 😂😂😂
Vague threats, irrelevant memes, but no actual critique because it's so obvious.

Love it.

Now Mumsnetters are somehow responsible for randomers on Twitter? This thread is weird.

No, I'd say this thread is illuminating.
I'm out. Its too far for me.

I'm fascinated by the idea that all homophones and all neo-nazi's are somehow gender critical! Critical of gender - rejecting the gendered stereotypes, expectations, requirements placed on women (and men of course) as a result of assumptions made about them because of their sex. Isn't that pretty much the total opposite of homophobic attitudes and most certainly not what neo-nazis think. They usually want to strictly enforce stereotyped gender norms.

I'm reeling from the news that the rainbow flag is for gay people. Very trans exclusionary. Goodness me.

Different day, same shit. Yet another thread started with the purpose of spreading ridiculous negative views of KJK. These threads all sound so familiar it's as if they have been written by the same person.

You are 'out' of something you disagree with by someone you don't like?
Were you ever in??

OP - I see you were 'in' (with LWS) and now feel you want to be 'out'.
Fair enough.

As I've said before I disagree with kjk on some issues and have never been to a LWS event.
But the time people will spend with faux worry about her and LWS and GC women's 'reputation' is very very odd.

Just persoanlly diagree if you want. And accept others make differing judgements. No need to 'worry' about her and people who agree with her.

No-one is threatening you, don't be so overdramatic.

Why pro-Islam at Palestinian march?

Because many people on the marchs are muslim.

Are you goin to try to make this basic fact racist 😂

And Muslims need leaflets about Islam?

Newsflash: they probably give out Catholic literature at pro life rallies 😮

@CassieMaddox should start an outraged thread about that too!
Amd they're homophobic.

So many people with wrong think to be angry about...

The person who started the thread said she had been to LWS events, but she was uncomfortable with this. Obviously she was then told to not bother going to any more. I guess it really isn't OK for women to have boundaries.

Yes. You are probably right. Groups giving out leaflets at rallies of people they have lots of common ground with. Rallies filled with people they would absolutely be happy to be associated with. Remind me of your point again.

God you're really trying to spin this aren't you 😂

No. But muslims are more interested in Islamic literature/ campaigns/ charities views than non muslims don't you think?

People hand out leaflets to people they think might be interested in the content.
I'm sorry if that's news to you.

Have you ever been on a march?
this is true of all marchs. Groups supporting it bring stuff they are intersted in.

You still haven't said what the problem is excatly?

OK. Have a nice life only talking to people who already agree with you.

Your point was I should rethink my post. Why??

My point is: anyone can give out anything they like at rallies and women who weren't there not handing them out don't have to care.

I have often heard that the Vatican created the term "trans ideology" but never been able to find any evidence. Can you point me in the right direction?

Homophobes and neo-nazis are not GC. They are very pro gender stereotypes.

Really? Because all your posts seem to be along the lines of "people leaflet rallies when they think have lots in common with the aims of the people on the rally'.. So what do LWS have in common with the racist bully boys that follow TR?

Terrible optics. No matter what some posters on this thread say, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon and his supporters are racist thugs and any association with their brand of politics is toxic and alienating for many people.

Fair point. I should have been clearer, anti-trans and pro single sex spaces.

Nope my posts are about not havong to agree with KJK or the leaflet or the TR rally and not having to start threads abut it.

Like you don;t have to start threads about any other rallies you and leaflets you disgaree with. Muslims/ catholics/reform/ ULEZ

Why do you think I should 'reconsider' my post? You now seem to agree with it?
Which is it?

You obviously thought you could imply there was soemthing bad about equating muslims and Palestine.

Its all this implying people are bad that is so tedious and juvenile.

More posters worried about KJK's 'optics'.
At a TR rally.

So much concern for KJK.

It's heartwarming.

Sorry @Hatfullofwillow quoted the wrong post.

No worries.

I'm sorry you failed to understand. Your examples of groups that would leaflet rallies, were groups that had common ground with attendees. Pro-Islam groups & Palestinian marches, Catholics & pro-life rallies. They were your examples. No-one made you use them. It seemed a little weird on a thread where a lot of people seemed to be saying 'doesn't matter what the rally is about, definitely doesn't imply common ground. Can't see any reason why that might give the impression that LWS are far right' After all as you said Catholics might leaflet a pro-life rally and they definitely don't have...oh no,,,,wait...

The suggestion that I was implying something bad about equating muslims (actually you said pro-Islam leaflets which suggests proselytising but that's by the by) & Palestine was entirely in your head.

And I'm not implying that racist, misogynist thugs like Tommy Robinson are bad, I'm saying it quite clearly. They're complete shits.