Another GC Employment Tribunal: Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #4

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Roz Adams was employed by Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre (ERCC) as a counsellor. She is claiming constructive dismissal for Gender Critical (GC) beliefs. The CEO of ERCC is a well known transwoman known for, among other things, controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

There's live tweeting from https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets or if Twitter doesn't show the tweets, look at https://nitter.net/tribunaltweets. There's an informative substack here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre

This post explains how to get access to watch the hearing: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4988632-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-2?page=24&reply=132419912

Abbreviations:
J: Employment Judge McFatridge
RA: Roz Adams, the claimant
NC: Naomi Cunningham, barrister for the claimant
ERCC or R: Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, the respondent
DH: David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent
KM or KT: Katy McTernan, ERCC Senior management
MR: Mairi Rosko, ERCC Board Member
MS: Miren Sagues, ERCC Board Member
KH: Katie Horburgh, ERCC Board Member
AB: ERCC staff member (name redacted)
NCi: Nico Ciubotariu, COO of ERCC
MW: Mridul Wadhwa, CEO of ERCC
BP: Beira's Place

RA gave evidence over 15-18 January 2024.

Witnesses:
Nicole Jones (NJ): 18 January 2024 (on behalf of RA)
Mairi Rosko (MR): 19 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Katy McTernan (referred to both as KT and KM): 22-23 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Miren Sagues (MS): 24 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Katie Horburgh (KH): 24 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)

Thread #1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4985570-another-gc-employment-tribunal-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crsis
Thread #2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4988632-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-2
Thread #3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4990903-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-3

It would put their funding at risk even if it didn't put their charitable status at risk.

Someone would have to raise a compliant with the regulator.

Their charitable aims read as follows:

Object:
In particular the Objects shall be: 5.1 to relieve the distress of women, men, boys and girls aged over 12 years who have been raped or who have experienced sexual violence and of their partners, friends and families through the provision of emotional and practical support, information, advice and advocacy; and 5.2 to advance education, through the provision of information, advice and advocacy, among professional bodies and the general public about the causes, nature, extent and effects of rape and sexual violence against women, men, boys and girls aged over 12 years, and ways of preventing or relieving the suffering it causes.

Arguably you could pick that apart.

Give me half an hour. I'll sort it.
<puts on caghoule>

I was thinking Sister Michael from Derry Girls.

Anyone else repeatedly checking their mic and camera are off? Am sure they don't want to see me eating crisps and telling my cat he's lovely.

I believe this is the next, and final, witness for ERCC.

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It's not MW that's the problem, it's all of them going along with it. The whole lot have to go. The whole board, MW, anyone else who was complicit. There needs to be a proper independant investigation. If one happened I doubt there would be anything left but the name of the organisation as an empty shell with no people.

NC on fkn fire this afternoon. What a shero!

🔥 🔥🔥🔥

HarpQuartet I think you may be under a misapprehension, I'd quite like to see your cat, for one... Go on. Dare you. 😉

Last witness now

This witness is 23

First young person I think - KH is in her 20s.

yes, let's get a young'un and also someone who speaks English as 2nd language....

The affirmation is a bit tricky for people used to changing the meaning of words to whatever they want them to be 'truth' - what do you mean by 'truth'? ERCC clearly has a different definition of 'truth' to the rest of us as shown by evidence so far.

Oh God she's 23, poor wee mite... 😬

TWENTY THREE?

This child was disciplining RA?

Are you fucking kidding me?

Hehe, I think it could be said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Imagine a slightly wonky cat with eye discharge. As my granny would say, 'a face that only a mother could love.'

My biggest fear is my emotional support cat sitting on the keyboard and messaging the entire tribunal

I can't hear him

This witness is already oozing misplaced confidence in zemself. How could anyone be so chirpy after seeing NC in action so far, unless they were incredibly dim?

I misspelled KH's name. Sorry about that.

hopefully she says the shocking things without realising she is dunking them in it

I don't think they're allowed to watch anyone else, pronouns.

Zem's going to have a shock when they get ill with a sex-based illness. It happens to us all eventually.

Did NC really say 'identity projects'?😀

I don't think wintnesses are allowed to observe proceedings prior to testifying because it might change their testimony. She's a parachutish landing in a minefield who has no idea of all the bodies that are already piled up in the field.