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Another GC employment tribunal: Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #3

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nauticant · 22/01/2024 14:57

Roz Adams was employed by Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre (ERCC) as a counsellor. She is claiming constructive dismissal for Gener Critical (GC) beliefs. The CEO of ERCC is a well known transwoman known for, among other things, controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

There's live tweeting from https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets or if Twitter doesn't show the tweets, look at https://nitter.net/tribunaltweets. There's an informative substack here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre

This post explains how to get access to watch the hearing: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4988632-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-2?page=24&reply=132419912

Abbreviations:
J: Employment Judge McFatridge
RA: Roz Adams, the claimant
NC: Naomi Cunningham, barrister for the claimant
ERCC or R: Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, the respondent
DH: David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent
KM: Katy McTernan, ERCC Senior management
MR: Mairi Rosko, ERCC Board Member
MS: Miren Sagues, ERCC Board Member
KH: Katie Horburgh, ERCC Board Member
AB: ERCC staff member (name redacted)
NCi: Nico Ciubotariu, COO of ERCC
MW: Mridul Wadhwa, CEO of ERCC
BP: Beira's Place

RA gave evidence over 15-18 January 2024.

Witnesses:
Nicole Jones (NJ): 18 January 2024 (on behalf of RA)
Mairi Rosko (MR): 19 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Katy McTernan (referred to both as KT and KM): 22 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
[more to follow]

Thread #1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4985570-another-gc-employment-tribunal-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crsis
Thread #2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4988632-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-2

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ickky · 22/01/2024 14:57

Thank you for the new thread.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/01/2024 14:58

PMK thank you @nauticant

GrumpyMenopausalScathingWombWielder · 22/01/2024 14:58

Thanks for new 🧵

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 15:00
Kisses GIF by Becky G

@nauticant

AlphariusOmegron · 22/01/2024 15:00

I am on a small crusade to have MW's Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mridul_Wadhwa rewritten to not be one sided. There is currently no mention of any criticisms at all. If anyone has the power and interest to help rewrite it please do, it's a bin fire and the first thing people see with a MW google search.

Mridul Wadhwa - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mridul_Wadhwa

AlphariusOmegron · 22/01/2024 15:02

And there is NO page at all for Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, ironically - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edinburgh_Rape_Crisis_Centre&redirect=no - given the last few days, you would think someone would fill it in.

Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edinburgh_Rape_Crisis_Centre&redirect=no

Farmageddon · 22/01/2024 15:07

Thanks GCITC and Boiledbeetle for clarifying re the funding.

Appalonia · 22/01/2024 15:08

Still laughing about Eddie Izzard!

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 15:08

I'm losing where NC is up to.

GCITC · 22/01/2024 15:09

I can't wait for Mr Hayes coming out story Grin

JollyJanuary · 22/01/2024 15:10

Thank you for new thread and commentary x

ickky · 22/01/2024 15:10

GCITC · 22/01/2024 15:09

I can't wait for Mr Hayes coming out story Grin

It all started in a little room in Edinburgh.

Signalbox · 22/01/2024 15:10

GCITC · 22/01/2024 15:09

I can't wait for Mr Hayes coming out story Grin

Mr Hay keeps being misgendered poor thing.

SirChenjins · 22/01/2024 15:11

Thanks for the new thread. Dipping in and out as I’m going round Sainsbury’s - wtaf am I reading??

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 15:12

NC questioning the fact service user was told no men in service

DrSpartacularsScathingTinsel · 22/01/2024 15:12

Placemarking, thanks again everyone.

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 15:13

NC on about a staff members right to privacy

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 15:13

Witness trying herself in knots again

pronounsbundlebundle · 22/01/2024 15:14

we would,, we would....

'support reeducation or a struggle session' ? I think is what she wants to say

GailBlancheViola · 22/01/2024 15:14

This is a repellent way for a service supposed to be there to help to treat traumatised women. I am so fucking angry the more I read, the ERCC needs tearing down.

Appalonia · 22/01/2024 15:14

If service user insists on seeing a worker who is biologically female we wouldn't discuss their biological sex.

GrumpyMenopausalScathingWombWielder · 22/01/2024 15:14

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 15:12

NC questioning the fact service user was told no men in service

Excellent. This requires a robust challenge. And who better than NC to do that?

Appalonia · 22/01/2024 15:15

No circs in which you would ensure a rape victim is sitting alone in a room with a biological woman?

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 15:16

Witness we wouldn't discuss in detail a persons biological sex

Appalonia · 22/01/2024 15:16

MW is legally male?

Don't agree.

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