Another GC employment tribunal. Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #2

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Claiming constructive dismissal for GC beliefs.

ERCC CEO is a well known transwoman know for controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

There was live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets or if Twitter doesn't show the tweets, look at https://nitter.net/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
J: Employment Judge McFatridge
RA: Roz Adams, the claimant
NC: Naomi Cunningham, barrister for the claimant
R or ERCC: the Respondent, Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre
DH: David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent
KM: Katy McTernan, ERCC Senior management
MR: Mairi Rosko, ERCC Board Member
MS: Miren Sagues, ERCC Board Member
KH: Katie Horburgh, ERCC Board Member
AB: ERCC staff member (name redacted)
NCi: Nico Ciubotariu, COO of ERCC
MW: Mridul Wadhwa, CEO of ERCC
BP: Beira's Place

Witnesses:
Nicole Jones (NJ): 18 January 2024
Mairi Rosko (MR): 19 January 2024
[more to follow]

Thread #1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4985570-another-gc-employment-tribunal-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crsis

NC some quarters thought that sex realism wasn't woriads. In fact it's gi that isn't woriads.

KT don't agree

NC the extreme is eg to say that women don't have choice in bio sex of intimate examiner who would see them in direct aftermath of their rape

KT that wouldn't be good, but it's not the direct impact

Jesus the contrast between the claimant and the defence. Boring dude all about process, forms, who saw what when. Nothing about the impact on service users. Naomi, laser like, straight to the heart of what having a man at the helm of a rape crisis center actually means in practice.

I was just thinking this! She seems completely unprepared for the questions.

FUCK SAKE IT'S 436

I'm off to make a cup of tea.

This woman is brainwashed. She's baldly stated women can't use ERCC if they believe they can see biological sex (as we all can) as there's a risk it'll be a male in a room with them. They're risking retraumatisation along with coercive gaslighting. Because any man can say he's a woman and that's it.

I am really shocked. This is bonkers, bonkers, NWORIADS indeed.

KT didn't know that MW was vociferous in arguing against law change to ensure that women couldn't chose the sex of the person intimately examining them. KT doesn't know very much. You wonder how much she has actually ever thought about the ramifications of any of this.

Wadhwa specifically left the SNP because they failed to vote through policy that would remove women's right to ask for a female examiner.

Thanks for keeping us updated, have been following along for a while, NC sounds brilliant.

Sorry if it's been answered already, but was this crowdfunded for?

I'm not watching - did her nose grow when she said this?

How do we know if someone is a TW?

If they say so.

Who knew The Bad Touch by the Bloodhound Gang would eventually turn out to be a feminist anthem?!

Hahaha

😱They wouldn't let the service user know if they were going to see a transwomen.

Loving this line of questioning from NC.

You have no criteria to know if he's telling lies.

that wouldn't be good, but it's not the direct impact

For the traumatised service user in acute distress it is exactly the direct impact!

Unless the argument is that she's acceptable collateral damage for male employees having their freedom of self expression?!

Oh my god - NC is brilliant. There is no answer other than 'yes' if you believe.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What about the poor traumatised rape victim - please please NC get to this. If they walk into a room being told it's 'woman only' and see DH. (I am feeling slightly sorry for DH).

NC on absolute fire!

she's tying herself in knots trying to stick to her belief system!

NC how do you live as a woman?

How do I live as a woman?

I don't know

Oh dear, she has talked herself into the trap.

I am laughing so much I had to check my mic was off.

How is this person employed?

Almost feeling a bit sorry for the poor witness! Naomi is ferocious