Another GC employment tribunal. Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #2

[nauticant]

Claiming constructive dismissal for GC beliefs.

ERCC CEO is a well known transwoman know for controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

There was live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets or if Twitter doesn't show the tweets, look at https://nitter.net/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
J: Employment Judge McFatridge
RA: Roz Adams, the claimant
NC: Naomi Cunningham, barrister for the claimant
R or ERCC: the Respondent, Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre
DH: David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent
KM: Katy McTernan, ERCC Senior management
MR: Mairi Rosko, ERCC Board Member
MS: Miren Sagues, ERCC Board Member
KH: Katie Horburgh, ERCC Board Member
AB: ERCC staff member (name redacted)
NCi: Nico Ciubotariu, COO of ERCC
MW: Mridul Wadhwa, CEO of ERCC
BP: Beira's Place

Witnesses:
Nicole Jones (NJ): 18 January 2024
Mairi Rosko (MR): 19 January 2024
[more to follow]

Thread #1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4985570-another-gc-employment-tribunal-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crsis

Checking in. Thanks.

'are you aware that some people believe that being a woman is to do with your body? '

I think this witness is realising there is no good way out of this question - does a non-binary person have a biological sex?

Thank you!

Thanks @nauticant

Thank you

I've only mentioned 2 witnesses. Were there any more?

Would 'need advice' on whether NB people have a biological sex.

Uhm...

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Thank you, will follow

Lunch time until 2pm

Thanks for new thread @nauticant

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Admitting ERCC is not fit for purpose if they can't even answer that question.

I honestly think that whole NB line of questioning completely scuppered the witness. She basically at points agreed that the service users should know the truth I think, and that she would have to seek advice from higher up if an 'AMAB' non binary person was employed and the sex of worker question was asked.

< blinks >

Unicorn sex. That's what they have. (Ie non existent).

Thanks for the new thread @nauticant

I was supposed to do some work / housework today. Ah well, this is more important. Maybe I'll login in / have a hoover while they lunch.

Somewhat like the admin error. She will consult a higher power on what she should say, and then say it.

Is the court clear yet on the clash between zealotry, actual reality and the impact on service users?

Their witness would need to seek advice. Like Roz did.

IANAL, but I’d that a gotcha?

Massive thank you for threads and info x

NC: what would you tell service users if an AMAB non binary person worked there?

MR: I don't know how that could happen...

What does that even mean??

And how would they even know, given that you can't ask about 'gender history'?

Also fancy not knowing Forstater. In Scotland in a service that is TWAW. How the fuck could anyone not know what the Forstater case meant?

At this point NC is demonstrating that ERCC people don't know how they can apply their principles in practice.

And yet when someone working at ERCC, say RA, seeks clarification, look what happens.