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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Vogue - another captured publication?

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SabrinaThwaite · 23/08/2023 09:20

Vogue magazine has published a piece by Emily Bridges:

I Was Banned From Competitive Cycling Because I’m Trans. That Won’t Stop Me Fighting For My Rights.

https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/emily-bridges-trans-cyclist?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_social-type=owned

Full of the usual hogwash and inaccuracies, and the discredited CCES report is doing some heavy lifting.

And apparently they will be trying to take British Cycling to court. We shall see.

I Was Banned From Competitive Cycling Because I’m Trans. That Won’t Stop Me Fighting For My Rights

Cyclist Emily Bridges has been competitively racing since she was 10 years old, but now, due to new policies introduced by British Cycling, she’s been banned from competing in the women’s category.

https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/emily-bridges-trans-cyclist?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_social-type=owned

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shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:09

Baldieheid · 29/08/2023 18:01

Open my mind.

And my heart?

Whatcha trying to do, kill me? Also, the Swiss cheese holes in the brain look doesn't suit me. Looks good on you though.

Swiss cheese??? I at least hope you meant vegan Swiss cheese. As a dedicated woke liberal snowflake consider me offended!

MavisMcMinty · 29/08/2023 18:10

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:05

Trans women are women, psychologically and socially, if not physically.
I’m secure enough in my womanhood to make space for those who feel like a woman but weren’t born so. Despite the anti-woke propaganda, this will not affect women negatively. It especially won’t lead to massively increased suicide rates for women up to the level they’re at for the trans population.

You don’t get to give away my single spaces, though. There was no referendum, and if only one woman objects that’s enough to continue banning biological males from our sports and spaces.

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:12

MavisMcMinty · 29/08/2023 18:07

Ah, I see @shuddupayaface is on duty this afternoon and evening. I wonder if they will have anything new to say, something we’ve not heard before, something profound that will change our stubborn bigoted minds?

Im currently breastfeeding so I’ve got all day and all night baby 😎

Baldieheid · 29/08/2023 18:13

Pity Vogue didn't choose a real sportswoman for their feature.

I've been catching up on some recent tv coverage of some absolutely awesome inspiring athletes, cyclists, football players. Prime time coverage, on the telly box and everything.

Baldieheid · 29/08/2023 18:15

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:09

Swiss cheese??? I at least hope you meant vegan Swiss cheese. As a dedicated woke liberal snowflake consider me offended!

Well of course it's vegan, darling.

What kind of barbarian do you think I am??

SunnieShine · 29/08/2023 18:16

Beowulfa · 24/08/2023 09:40

So why can't Emily compete in the Open category?

Or the men's category? Just a thought...

viques · 29/08/2023 18:19

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:05

Trans women are women, psychologically and socially, if not physically.
I’m secure enough in my womanhood to make space for those who feel like a woman but weren’t born so. Despite the anti-woke propaganda, this will not affect women negatively. It especially won’t lead to massively increased suicide rates for women up to the level they’re at for the trans population.

Is there any research, I mean peer reviewed and published by a reputable body, research, not a poll of twenty people outside a woke University, that can categorically annotate and account for psychological differences between men and women? Because if so I would love to read it.

Similarly for the statistics relating to suicide among transpeople. Does this apply to both transmen as well as transwomen? Were there other factors affecting the mental health of the suicides, things like diagnosed depression, drug use, unemployment, bereavement, family breakdown, redundancy, long term health issues or was their transgender status the only contributory factor identified at the inquest?

Helleofabore · 29/08/2023 18:19

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:05

Trans women are women, psychologically and socially, if not physically.
I’m secure enough in my womanhood to make space for those who feel like a woman but weren’t born so. Despite the anti-woke propaganda, this will not affect women negatively. It especially won’t lead to massively increased suicide rates for women up to the level they’re at for the trans population.

How are they psychologically women? Please do explain this in some detail because I think we are really keen to know this.

And 'socially' relies on all of a society to accept males as being female? This is not even remotely true in any country in the world.

Doesn't matter that 'you' personally are happy to share a female prison cell with a male person I would safely predict most female people are not happy with this. Just using the % of women who don't actively agree with males accessing female toilets as a basis for that theory. I assume that is what you mean by 'secure enough with my womanhood to make space for those who feel like a woman'? Because I mean if you are not talking about for every single eventuality, including a female prison cell, you would then be lying.

Are you lying?

How deficient in critical thinking would you have to be to think it was appropriate to use general female population suicide statistics to defend your arguments for suicide rates for trans people?

Got any actual statistics to back up your claim, or are you going to use an incentivised self reporting marketing research mechanic as your evidence? How about you compare male people with any of the comorbidities that are usually diagnosed in those male trans people ?

Why would you compare female people to male people at all regarding suicide?

What false thinking you seem to posting here today. It is great to have a live demonstration of all the tropes used by extremist trans activists. That is what you are repeating here.

Including that no one on this thread 'knows' any trans person. That is just your own prejudice showing.

SabrinaThwaite · 29/08/2023 18:20

Trans women are women, psychologically and socially, if not physically.

What makes you a woman psychologically?

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Helleofabore · 29/08/2023 18:22

Igneococcus · 29/08/2023 17:39

This is a delightful selection of quotes from this thread:
“Was Banned From Women’s Competitive Cycling Because I’m Male”
“If India had a brain they’d be dangerous”
“these fellas hate women”
“If you were truly a woman”
“Emily doesn't look good in this Vogue shoot tho. Emily looks like 2010 era Julian assange.”
“his gruff, manly voice”
Anti-trans, boderline (or fully?) racist, backwards.

Where is the racisms in that list?

I am looking forward to your answer for this @shuddupayaface .

Baldieheid · 29/08/2023 18:24

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:12

Im currently breastfeeding so I’ve got all day and all night baby 😎

Oh, and it's chestfeeding.

How bigoted and exclusionary of you to use breastfeeding.....

Tut tut.

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:25

Helleofabore · 29/08/2023 18:22

I am looking forward to your answer for this @shuddupayaface .

I’m afraid I was not aware India was a person 😂 blushing you got me there.

viques · 29/08/2023 18:28

SabrinaThwaite · 29/08/2023 18:20

Trans women are women, psychologically and socially, if not physically.

What makes you a woman psychologically?

Lady brain! Which begs the question, if you have a man brain how does this change into lady brain when you transition so that you can truly declare yourself as a woman both psychologically and socially.

And of course vv for transitioning from a woman to a man, which explains all the transmen you see leaning out of white van windows leering at schoolgirls and making sexist remarks because they have successfully transitioned both psychologically and socially into men.

viques · 29/08/2023 18:30

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:25

I’m afraid I was not aware India was a person 😂 blushing you got me there.

Wow, isn’t that a bit like someone who was a Brexiteer admitting they don’t know who Nigel Farage is?

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:30

Baldieheid · 29/08/2023 18:24

Oh, and it's chestfeeding.

How bigoted and exclusionary of you to use breastfeeding.....

Tut tut.

Both terms are acceptable 😋

Theeyeballsinthesky · 29/08/2023 18:32

A TRA who doesnt know who IW is? when do the schools go back? Asking for a friend

Baldieheid · 29/08/2023 18:34
Swiss Cheese GIF by zuggamasta

More holes than a coal mine...

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:38

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SabrinaThwaite · 29/08/2023 18:39

viques But how do I know what are man thoughts and what are woman thoughts?

I only know what my own thoughts are (and that’s quite confusing enough).

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Baldieheid · 29/08/2023 18:39

I think I'd nominate Sophie Unwin and her pilot, Jenny Holl, to Vogue as truly inspirational female cyclists.

Gold medal winners. I mean, c'mon. Gold. Medal. Winners.

Who could argue against these 2 powerhouses?

Helleofabore · 29/08/2023 18:40

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:25

I’m afraid I was not aware India was a person 😂 blushing you got me there.

Gosh..... did you just mischaracterise a trans person? And yet you are here attacking women who disagree with you and posting misinformation?

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:41

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Helleofabore · 29/08/2023 18:43

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Calling someone Karen is yet another attack. As is describing a group with the blanket description of being 'filled with bitterness' and 'paranoia'.

So much for the 'big heart'. I suspect you are using the destabilised language that has changed the meanings of words such as 'tolerant' to mean the opposite of the word's intended meaning.

viques · 29/08/2023 18:43

shuddupayaface · 29/08/2023 18:30

Both terms are acceptable 😋

No, you can’t feed a baby with a chest, as transmen who have undergone radical breast surgery have discovered too late , you need breasts to feed a baby.