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Vogue - another captured publication?

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SabrinaThwaite · 23/08/2023 09:20

Vogue magazine has published a piece by Emily Bridges:

I Was Banned From Competitive Cycling Because I’m Trans. That Won’t Stop Me Fighting For My Rights.

https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/emily-bridges-trans-cyclist?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_social-type=owned

Full of the usual hogwash and inaccuracies, and the discredited CCES report is doing some heavy lifting.

And apparently they will be trying to take British Cycling to court. We shall see.

I Was Banned From Competitive Cycling Because I’m Trans. That Won’t Stop Me Fighting For My Rights

Cyclist Emily Bridges has been competitively racing since she was 10 years old, but now, due to new policies introduced by British Cycling, she’s been banned from competing in the women’s category.

https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/emily-bridges-trans-cyclist?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_social-type=owned

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SinnerBoy · 24/08/2023 13:25

I Was Banned From Competitive Cycling Because I’m Trans.

Hmm, Zachily started them's article with a lie as the first sentence. Them - as we all know - hasn't been banned at all.

Don't publishers of false articles have to print corrections?

Floisme · 24/08/2023 13:28

ThelmaBorden · 24/08/2023 13:17

who buys/reads Vogue??? hands up !!

Me. Or at least I used to before they featured Paris Lees in the women's suffrage edition. I love clothes and I miss it.

Clymene · 24/08/2023 13:28

Vogue is a men's rights magazine. Men should never be made editors of magazines where the primary readership is women.

Floisme · 24/08/2023 14:38

I've no objection to men writing and talking about clothes and fashion - gender identity immaterial provided they have something interesting to say on the topic. What I object to is using a magazine about clothes and fashion to talk over women and promote your own agenda. And yes, an editor should be able to spot the difference.

ErnestMilton · 24/08/2023 14:46

The powerhouse list is baffling.
Carol Voderman? Lila Moss?

LondonLass91 · 24/08/2023 14:54

Who on earth buys Vogue anymore....I mean who are these people?!?!

LondonLass91 · 24/08/2023 14:57

ErnestMilton · 24/08/2023 14:46

The powerhouse list is baffling.
Carol Voderman? Lila Moss?

I know, it's so hilarious isn't it..powerhouse indeed...

Floisme · 24/08/2023 14:59

I would buy it still if it stuck to it's remit of clothes and fashion.
What else would you like to know LondonLass91?

WhereYouLeftIt · 24/08/2023 15:14

NotBadConsidering · 23/08/2023 23:17

Because the presentation, the filters, the clothes, the use of Vogue is all part of a deliberate PR campaign to say “look how much of a real woman Emily is, how can anyone possibly say Emily can’t compete in women’s sport? Emily is in Vogue looking gorgeous darling, how can Emily not be a woman?”

It’s designed to trick the casual reader into thinking it’s cruel to let someone looking like that race against men. So calling out the airbrushing and filtering and pointing out the realities of Emily’s appearance - and stature, something that is deliberately hidden in photo shoots like this - isn’t nasty, but entirely necessary.

Your comment about Emily's stature made me think, just how tall is Bridges? Googling "emily bridges height" came up with several sites claiming 5'9"! Luckily in an interview with Cycling Weekly he states "Yes, I’m quite tall [6ft 2in], ..."

Which did make me wonder where these other (admittedly shit) websites got their numbers from.

'I just want to be competitive again': Trans cyclist Emily Bridges on preparing to race in the female category

The 21-year-old reveals the extent to which lowering her testosterone has impacted on her performance

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/fitness/i-just-want-to-be-competitive-again-trans-cyclist-emily-bridges-on-preparing-to-race-in-the-female-category

SabrinaThwaite · 24/08/2023 16:07

Emily Bridges is 5’9” in the same way that Lia Thomas is 5’9” - ie not. It seems some people find it useful to put false stats out there.

They are both around 6’2”.

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Dramatico · 24/08/2023 16:08

haute couture has always hated the bodies of mature women

so capture would not be a surprise

Dramatico · 24/08/2023 16:12

NotBadConsidering · 23/08/2023 23:17

Because the presentation, the filters, the clothes, the use of Vogue is all part of a deliberate PR campaign to say “look how much of a real woman Emily is, how can anyone possibly say Emily can’t compete in women’s sport? Emily is in Vogue looking gorgeous darling, how can Emily not be a woman?”

It’s designed to trick the casual reader into thinking it’s cruel to let someone looking like that race against men. So calling out the airbrushing and filtering and pointing out the realities of Emily’s appearance - and stature, something that is deliberately hidden in photo shoots like this - isn’t nasty, but entirely necessary.

Emily doesn't look good in this Vogue shoot tho. Emily looks like 2010 era Julian assange.

Any woman who was photograhed in Vogue looking like that would be dragged to hell and back.

MowingTheTerf · 24/08/2023 17:18

Conde Nast is the parent company and if you look across their publications (whether primarily aimed at men or women) the output is the same and there is a strange obsession with trans issues for magazines aimed at selling clothing.

viques · 24/08/2023 17:58

I was rather hoping they would do a group shot of all the finalists standing together, because it is only when you see pictures of gentle, frail, belittled and misunderstood Emily standing over six feet tall in her size nines that you understand why women don’t want to compete against men.

Fenlandia · 24/08/2023 18:08

I'm struggling to recall if Emily has actually raced in a women's race yet? Can anyone help? Because if they haven't, it's an extra level of stupid to put Bridges in the power list over sportswomen who have actually competed in something!

Baldieheid · 24/08/2023 20:50

No, I think Bridges had only ever competed against other males. Wasn't bad, but also wasn't "will be snapped up by Ineos" good like some of his compatriots (such as Fred Wright & Tom Pidcock).

viques · 24/08/2023 21:09

Fenlandia · 24/08/2023 18:08

I'm struggling to recall if Emily has actually raced in a women's race yet? Can anyone help? Because if they haven't, it's an extra level of stupid to put Bridges in the power list over sportswomen who have actually competed in something!

Bridges and another transwoman raced in one of those woke “womens races open to transwomen who have marginally lowered their T level” events. Bridges and the other transwoman came first and second. The third place winner was pictured on the podium holding her baby.

NotBadConsidering · 24/08/2023 21:27

Dramatico · 24/08/2023 16:12

Emily doesn't look good in this Vogue shoot tho. Emily looks like 2010 era Julian assange.

Any woman who was photograhed in Vogue looking like that would be dragged to hell and back.

But it’s the intention, not whether they achieved it 😉

CebelloRojo · 24/08/2023 21:48

Old twitter accounts of Bridges’ mum show her pushing her daughter into modelling when she was only young, perhaps eleven or twelve. I’m not sure what happened to that child but there’s something deeply unsettling about her son now being used as a model for Vogue etc.
Almost like one of the children has to be famous at any cost.

SinnerBoy · 25/08/2023 09:24

SabrinaThwaite · Yesterday 16:07

Emily Bridges is 5’9” in the same way that Lia Thomas is 5’9” - ie not. It seems some people find it useful to put false stats out there.

It's all part of the propaganda push, to make it seem that they're just like real women. Compare it with the BBC having a woman read out his hissy fit rant about being confined to competing in his own sex class.

It was so that people couldn't hear his gruff, manly voice and go, "Erm, hang on a minute..."

PatientZorro · 25/08/2023 09:48

The entire article is such an embarrassment. Sad that Vogue is now so far up its own backside that it could not recognise that this pathetic list of nepo-babies, twitter warriors (Carol Vorderman fgs!) and men would make them a laughing stock.

RebelliousCow · 25/08/2023 10:12

The issue of sport really is at the fulcrum of the most ardent TRA activism.
It represents the weakest and yet, at the same time, most essential component of TRA ideology. Once the illusion that men can be women, and that there are no essential differences between the sexes comes apart, in the context of sport, it begins to unravel elsewhere too.

Floisme · 25/08/2023 11:01

To be fair, Vogue badly needed a shake up. It used to have a society column that would have embarrassed the Daily Telegraph, and you had a strong sense that everyone who worked there had been to the same boarding school. I assume Edward Enninful was hired to tackle that and in particular the lack of black or brown faces both in the magazine and on the staff. But the fact that they were openly seeking change probably meant they were vulnerable to other lobbyists. And so here we are.

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