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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Pool rules changed after outcry over trans official in change room

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JanesLittleGirl · 29/07/2023 12:26

In today's DT:

digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1387/reader/reader.html?social#!preferred/0/package/1387/pub/1387/page/40/article/NaN

Sorry, I don't know how to get past the paywall.

It's about the person who was upset when given the key to the unisex changing room in a Sheffield hotel.

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ScrollingLeaves · 30/07/2023 11:14

forgotmyusername1· Today 10:44
MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Today 09:55

At what point is this a crime

Something doesn't have to be a crime for it to be inappropriate and unnecessary.

If Anne was still identifying as Paul would it be a crime?

Definitely intrusion, harassment and voyeurism as Paul.

And as Anne with wig and skirt….. still intrusion, harassment and voyeurism.

IhaveanewTVnow · 30/07/2023 11:15

Years ago this person would be called a word starting with p ending in t and has a v in the middle.

NicCageisnotNickCave · 30/07/2023 11:19

Anne seems to be trying to DFE this morning (delete fucking everything).

Medium posts were already archived tho: https://archive.is/YFS93

https://archive.is/iiEFF

NicCageisnotNickCave · 30/07/2023 11:20

( an archive link, not a paywall ^)

ScrollingLeaves · 30/07/2023 11:21

I really would like to know what makes middle aged men get hit with this obsessive fetish. It seems almost like a very peculiar skewed version of limerance for himself.

ScrollingLeaves · 30/07/2023 11:22

Limerence

LoobiJee · 30/07/2023 11:26

ScrollingLeaves

A few years back there was an awareness raising campaign about ED. 40 over 40.

Apparently 40% of many aged over 40 experience ED.

For some reason, I find that particular fact often comes back to my mind, unbidden, when observations are made about the stark difference in age profile of male transitioners compared to female transitioners.

LoobiJee · 30/07/2023 11:27

Gah. 40% of men.

not ‘many’

zerofuchsgivenTBH · 30/07/2023 11:32

'And to all those people who weren't on my side, I'm sorry but I will continue to exist, I am not going away. It doesn't matter how much you lie about me I will still be here when you have run out of things to say'.

Anne, if you're reading this - the "existing" line is getting very tired.

Yes, we know you exist. We're not arguing for your erasure. We're simply asking that you refrain from hanging around female change rooms (and it does sound from what's been written that there was a lot of 'hanging around'). And women know when a creep is creeping. We just do.

Please learn from this. Please respect women's dignity and privacy, and that of young girls. We aren't going to drop this, and we will challenge it every time ith happens, whether you or someone else, so try and let go of your entitlement and rage and be a better person. Thank you.

MavisMcMinty · 30/07/2023 11:37

As another poster said, Anne looks much better without the bad wig and frumpy skirt.

Froodwithatowel · 30/07/2023 11:38

The trouble is that women with need for single sex spaces who cannot use mixed sex ones regardless of how the male person identifies, looks or adapts their body will still be here too, when all the political nastiness runs out of things to say.

To meet your own needs by mugging other people for them, and framing their not getting gladly under your trampling feet and subordinating themselves to you as 'denying your existence' is not the action of a nice or good person.

NicCageisnotNickCave · 30/07/2023 11:40

I’m just going to quote Anne’s wife/ trans widow here and say,

‘F**k off’, Anne!

Pool rules changed after outcry over trans official in change room
Pool rules changed after outcry over trans official in change room
HarrietJet · 30/07/2023 11:42

Anne's wife is just one more woman being shown that nothing will ever be enough for these people.

Hepwo · 30/07/2023 11:46

He's all over Mastodon pining for a romantic liaison and apparently got snogged by someone, presumably another man, at Pride.

So I am hoping Mrs Coomes has done the fucking off.

His name is so apt (it's all about the coom)

Hepwo · 30/07/2023 11:49

Mastodon avatar.

Pool rules changed after outcry over trans official in change room
NicCageisnotNickCave · 30/07/2023 12:15

It absolutely horrifies me that our girls have been encouraged, coerced and even bullied into accepting males as females.

Perhaps it seems relatively harmless when it’s a male peer, a sensitive, swishy boy al la Jazz Jennings… but being taught to accept little boys who like Barbie into their private spaces dulls the girls’ self preservation instinct and ultimately robs them of their ability to say no.

Being Kind to Jazz Jennings wedges the changing room door open for Anne Coombes.

Consent isn’t decided by committee, Anne. One single solitary no is a total veto.

Chequeredred · 30/07/2023 12:26

Can teachers at senior school use the children’s toilet?
surely this is basic safe guarding

Glittertwins · 30/07/2023 12:29

Yusay · 29/07/2023 22:34

So if you’re a man who wants to watch teenage girls getting changed, all you have to do is pop on a skirt and wander through the girls’ changing rooms whenever you feel like it?

Incidentally, Anne was the only official in a skirt. All the females were in trousers of some description. I always wear trousers on poolside as well.

Helena7319 · 30/07/2023 12:30

RedToothBrush · 29/07/2023 23:44

Reminder:

A toilet/ changing room without women isn't of use to people like Anne.

Anne was unhappy using the unisex facilities.

Why?

Because a female changing room without women is just a changing room. They need women to use to get what they want from the facilities.

Anne then used the female changing rooms as a walk through. Multiple times. When no one else was. They could have used the male walkthrough. They could have used the long way around like everyone else.

They chose not to.

When they didn't need to use the facilities for changing.

Reminder: they were not using the facilities for their intended purpose. They had no reason to be there.

Why were they using the changing rooms as a walkthrough instead?

It shows a complete contempt for everyone else who might be unhappy.

This completely illustrates the point about the need of people like Anne to use women and girls NOT the functionality of the facilities. The use of facilities is a cover for using women and girls.

Spot on. How can the people enabling these behaviours not see?

Maerchentante · 30/07/2023 12:43

Glittertwins · 30/07/2023 12:29

Incidentally, Anne was the only official in a skirt. All the females were in trousers of some description. I always wear trousers on poolside as well.

When I still lived in Germany I coached and officiated at swimming competitions, always wore trousers or, more often, shorts. Never saw anyone in a skirt.

Melroses · 30/07/2023 12:45

Ah. The choker. Tres chic.... 😬

MotherEarthisaTerf · 30/07/2023 12:50

Maerchentante · 30/07/2023 12:43

When I still lived in Germany I coached and officiated at swimming competitions, always wore trousers or, more often, shorts. Never saw anyone in a skirt.

Yes but were you being woman enough? If you dont have long hair and a skirt how would you walk into the ladies toilets?

DarkDayforMN · 30/07/2023 12:51

the people who say 'but no-one would go to all this effort just to...' have clearly just never had something that they deem worth all that effort.

the “effort” they mean is demeaning and degrading yourself by dressing as a woman.

in “normal” male sexuality, the desire for sex is so bound up with the desire for social status that getting

DarkDayforMN · 30/07/2023 12:53

I don’t know why that only part posted! Weird.

anyway the last bit was pretty much “for men who subconsciously mix up status seeking with sex seeking it doesn’t compute because they aren’t reckoning on the humiliation fetish.”

Melroses · 30/07/2023 12:57

DarkDayforMN · 30/07/2023 12:51

the people who say 'but no-one would go to all this effort just to...' have clearly just never had something that they deem worth all that effort.

the “effort” they mean is demeaning and degrading yourself by dressing as a woman.

in “normal” male sexuality, the desire for sex is so bound up with the desire for social status that getting

I know men IRL who are quite happy to degrade themselves and look pathetic in their quest for sexual kicks. Maybe heterosexual men are just not subject to this or wipe it from their brains when the do see it.

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