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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Entitled male refused access to female changing area (despite wearing skirt)

788 replies

ACatCalledPushka · 23/07/2023 22:00

Well done to the hotel staff. ‘trans ‘woman’ given key to the unisex changing room instead of the female changing room ‘trans woman’ not happy.

https://twitter.com/anneicoombes/status/1683090524641566721?s=46&t=5tHsrgY5T97exTqeFD4LWg

https://twitter.com/anneicoombes/status/1683090524641566721?s=46&t=5tHsrgY5T97exTqeFD4LWg

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Hannahsbananas · 24/07/2023 09:33

The irony is flabbergasting, isn’t it?
Howls of outrage when asked to use the unisex facility, whilst trying to make the ladies provision just that.

Nothing voyeuristic about it at all…

NicCageisnotNickCave · 24/07/2023 09:39

Rightsraptor · 23/07/2023 22:14

Perhaps the Mercure Hotel Sheffield deserve a few messages of thanks.

I’m posting a card today!

teawamutu · 24/07/2023 09:55

I've emailed them to suggest that, instead of re-education, the staff member is thanked for protecting women's safety, privacy and dignity (and is commended for her grasp of the Equality Act).

SkaterBrained · 24/07/2023 10:06

Even if the motivation wasn't sexual, making people uncomfortable for validation isn't acceptable either.

This is a clear case of having no "good" reason for being in the female space. They weren't unsafe in the unisex space, they weren't being "outed" as they clearly don't pass and anyone can use a unisex space. The only reason is sexual or validation - neither of which women should be sacrificing themselves for.

Motorina · 24/07/2023 10:15

WallaceinAnderland · 24/07/2023 00:10

I don't think I've ever heard of any situations where a man has gained access to women's changing rooms as a transwomen, for male sexual gratification?

Look up AGP. We're not allowed to talk about here so this message might get zapped but it's what drives many men to insist on female spaces rather than third spaces.

Grace Lavery wrote a book about being trans and is absolutely explicit that being in a woman’s loo, with a woman peeing in the next cubicle, is arousing.

Grayson Perry has stated he wears wide skirts to hide the erections.

For some transwomen this is absolutely part of the driver. We know this because they tell us so.

sashh · 24/07/2023 10:24

There are two Mercures in Sheffield, how do we know which one it is?

Helleofabore · 24/07/2023 10:32

Don’t let’s forget two very prominent males with trans identities who mocked women’s toilet habits and noises? Montgomery? and S Faye wasn’t it?

Misogyny is never far from a male with a trans identity who uses female single sex spaces. It is in their everyday interactions.

ILikeDungs · 24/07/2023 10:32

"For some transwomen this is absolutely part of the driver. We know this because they tell us so."

As is often said on this board: when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 24/07/2023 10:36

Rightsraptor · 23/07/2023 22:14

Perhaps the Mercure Hotel Sheffield deserve a few messages of thanks.

I'm glad to see this - only because I'm sure it was Mercure Cardiff (? maybe not Cardiff) that cancelled a women's meeting after pressure from TRAs. Few years ago now. But I guess I'm hoping it's showing a shift.

SpidersAreShitheads · 24/07/2023 10:39

Has anyone got a link to the original Twitter thread? I can’t seem to find it….

Clymene · 24/07/2023 10:40

SpidersAreShitheads · 24/07/2023 10:39

Has anyone got a link to the original Twitter thread? I can’t seem to find it….

twitter.com/anneicoombes/status/1683090524641566721?s=61&t=gd6tu0Iz6JpyKXGLWMLGjg

Helleofabore · 24/07/2023 10:50

Loving this person’s reply to Sharron Davies tweet:

You’re male, use the changing room with other males or at the very least the unisex changing room! Deciding you wanting to change where you want to change does NOT trump women & girls rights. Ps I don’t know a single female that would subject that level of discomfort on others

It reads

”Sharron you know nothing about me, and all you know about the incident is what i have revealed. Don't presume to know things about me with no evidence. It shows an arrogance which is not becoming.”

This is a person upfront about the fact they transitioned from male to a woman identity. It is highly likely as others have said, this individual gets off on ‘persecution’, loves to remonstrate nasty wimmen telling them they are male.

SpidersAreShitheads · 24/07/2023 10:55

Thank you @Clymene - much appreciated! I wanted to share it with a few people. Don’t know why I couldn’t find it 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Cuckoosheep · 24/07/2023 11:02

I've just looked for the hotel and there is two listed for Sheffield that I can see. Does anyone know which hotel it is or which address to use please?

Boiledbeetle · 24/07/2023 11:14

Cuckoosheep · 24/07/2023 11:02

I've just looked for the hotel and there is two listed for Sheffield that I can see. Does anyone know which hotel it is or which address to use please?

Send it to both, one will be right and it may help the other one see which way the wind is blowing

HootyMcBooby76 · 24/07/2023 11:15

HOLD ON! I thought TW "just wanted to pee".

It's stories like this that prove that TRA party line is just the biggest pile of dogshit ever..

They DON'T just want to pee. They want other women there to prop up their fantasy. Without that, it's just a man peeing in a toilet.
No other women = no validation.
They were given the chance/choice of TWO bathrooms (male and unisex) and STILL chose to make a fuss as it wasn't 100% capitulation to their wants.
They were given the chance to "just pee" (that's all they want right?) and it wasn't enough.

Because it never IS.

Helleofabore · 24/07/2023 11:18

There is that wonderful cartoon of three males in various poses, mostly with their penises visible drying off or what ever looking at each other with disappointment that the women had all avoided that space. I don’t suppose we could post it here.

Tryingmuchharder · 24/07/2023 11:34

HootyMcBooby76 · 24/07/2023 11:15

HOLD ON! I thought TW "just wanted to pee".

It's stories like this that prove that TRA party line is just the biggest pile of dogshit ever..

They DON'T just want to pee. They want other women there to prop up their fantasy. Without that, it's just a man peeing in a toilet.
No other women = no validation.
They were given the chance/choice of TWO bathrooms (male and unisex) and STILL chose to make a fuss as it wasn't 100% capitulation to their wants.
They were given the chance to "just pee" (that's all they want right?) and it wasn't enough.

Because it never IS.

100%

I wish all the handmaidens for the trans women could read this. They don't come to this thread though, it doesn't interest them.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 24/07/2023 11:48

Is it this one, Hellebore? There's more on the next page.

Sinfest

https://sinfest.xyz/view.php?date=2023-02-28

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 24/07/2023 11:51

Good. Well done to that hotel. Women deserve male free spaces. And if I'd have been getting changed and seeing 'her' penis I would have complained. And I'm not anti trans in the slightest.

Helleofabore · 24/07/2023 12:00

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 24/07/2023 11:48

Is it this one, Hellebore? There's more on the next page.

No. But that is very close!!

And Vegemite rules!

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 24/07/2023 12:02

Try it with a bit of honey on toast, it's amazing. Just a smear of each and plenty of butter. Salty, sweet amazingness.

Helleofabore · 24/07/2023 12:10

nooooooo!!! I never could do butter and Vegemite (mum sent me to school with Vegemite and marge and it left me scarred for life when the marge melted at 35 degrees in the start of December in the outdoor port racks ... who knows what the temp was in the lunch box!) and no..... not honey!

I am a Vegemite purist. 😇

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 24/07/2023 12:13

Ah, you're in Australia?

Marge is the Work of the Devil. Butter, lightly salted, is the way forward.

VeronicaBeccabunga · 24/07/2023 12:20

Marmite FTW!

We stayed in a Mercure hotel this weekend and I have mailed the address in Sheffield to thank and congratulate their staff there.

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