Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle

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I thought MPs were bound by some standards of behaviour?

Yesterday the leader of the SNP at WM called his peers 'rabid gammon', which was shocking, but what I found more disturbing was Llloyd Russell-Moyle's verbal attack on Miriam Cates (clip above).

I actually found his behaviour frightening and alarming, and can't imagine how it must feel to have that venom directed at you by a colleague - let alone the slanderous accusations made.

Is it possible to make a complaint to the Labour Party about his behaviour?

Oily Moyley

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@TheClogLady thank you for that. So if I actually ever dare tweet, if I like them I retweet it, and if I disagree I quote tweet.

God, I feel like my grannie!

In related news, if LRM is unable to anticipate that his (male) behaviour might make a (female) colleague feel intimidated, perhaps he should enter a party whip-enforced period of self reflection?

And if he did know, of course he bloody did, then he has to also admit that he was Aware of the truth of Miriams words and subsequently angry at Miriam because she was exposing the truth under it all.

We are scared of men for good reason and just their very presence in a situation or space where we are vulnerable or expected to be safe can be, and is generally perceived by women to actually be, threatening behaviour to us. Regardless of whether that man claims to be a woman or not and regardless of whether or not or to what degree we were in danger.

So didn't realise, well over 2 million people have just said it's not OK and his behaviour is exactly what women are scared o f and why we have the laws we are supposed to have. And maybe he should shut up, listen to those perks who know, like actual women, learn and find something that works for women and transwomen.

Did realise, will then he's a very dangerous man and has shown the world his misogynistic hated of women.

Neither is a good look. One is a step down for a period of sir and go breed llamas the other usually ends in dead or traumatised women.

Use the 'wrong' pronouns and it's off to re-education camp; use intimidating behaviour towards a woman and...meh

Boiledbeetle · Today 14:08

So..... those figures on his reason for crossing the floor and intimidating Miriam tweet, as I'm new to Twitter, can someone explain, does it mean it's been viewed 2.2 million times and only 65 of those 2.2 million people have agreed with him?

Possibly because most people can see that he's at the centre of a chinos based conflagration?

Just posted on another thread that Miriam is on Politics Live tomorrow BBC2 11.15. Will be interesting to see what she has to say and how any Labour/SNP panelists respond.

Thank you, Violet

Posted on the Duffield thread but this crosses both. William Hague on Duffield and Cates:

twitter.com/timesradio/status/1617848033340788737?s=46&t=DdxL-lFVnqwGT9wOimK_Rg

ResisterRex · Today 11:20
Posted on the Duffield thread but this crosses both. William Hague on Duffield and Cates:

twitter.com/timesradio/status/1617848033340788737?s=46&t=DdxL-lFVnqwGT9wOimK_Rg

Thank you ResisterRex.
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Cates played down Moyle's behaviour on Politics live, probably because she'd be accused of 'playing the victim' or the 'if women aren't tough enough they shouldn't be there' rhetoric put out by people who ignore the several times greater level of abuse women get, especially in public life.
However she came across very clearly, supported by Blunkett. The SNP bod dodged it by talking about democracy 🙄

He should resign. He can’t have a say on anything that affects women if he is too stupid or too abusive that his behaviour is intimidating to women. He obviously hates women.

He's awful, there are some utter loons on the left of labour and on the right of the tory party, and the lib dems and SNP have them too, sadly, some of them have seats pretty much for life. I wish there was a way to get them out. A real pity KS didn't use it as a chance to suspend his whip and see someone else selected ahead of the next election.

just saw this and was pretty shocked at the hatred he showed and the rage in his face as he spoke to that poor female MP. he's my MP, always voted labour before because in my constituency they stood a chance of getting in but I am now doubtful that I can vote for him again unfortunately. Anything I can do as a constituent?

The same David Lammy who was involved in the original GRA debates?

https://mobile.twitter.com/HairyLeggdHarpy/status/1177699186361458688?cxt=HHwWgIC79fLKg9ggAAAA

Yes complain to him directly and ask what he thought he was doing and that his apology and explanations aren't sufficient.

He will only respond to constituents

@ethermint if you'd be do kind as it'd be fascinated to see how he responds...

also tell him that you don't want to hear one word about LGBT+ .

Your complaint is wholly about your male MP and his appalling behaviour towards a woman.

The fact that he's is gay, or that he was, wrongy thinking Miriam was transphobic is irrelevant to your complaint.

You witnessed a man abuse a woman in parliament on tv. He needs to explain that misogyny and violence.

The LGBT+ has no place in his answer.

You are holding him personally as a man abusing a woman to account not his ideology.

Boiled absolutely

He will probably repeat his pathetic excuse about how “passionate” he is about this subject. I noticed years ago at work how bullying men would be excused for getting into a nasty rage because they were supposedly passionate about whatever their job was.

Yes. Ask him and expect an answer that doesn’t answer anything. Expect to be educated, patronised and gaslighted. That is to be expected.

It’s interesting that this odious man used the word “passionate” to refer to how the issue makes him feel because until not very long ago, men who murdered their wives or girlfriends were often portrayed as having killed them in a “crime / fit of passion”.

Nothing says “passionate” more than murderous rage, eh?

Thing is had Miriam shouted, our even shown any negative emotion, whilst telling about the man in the toilets, I don't think Lloyd would have accepted her saying her emotions were because she was being passionate about the situation.Lloyd would say she was putting it on to elicit sympathy

Total weirdo, clearly no idea about age appropriate work and safeguarding

how to "choke" safely

You first, Lloyd.

When is he going to apologise properly?

Or called her hysterical.

Has anyone had any response at all to their complaints about this?

I emailed everyone involved, completed the formal complaint form, and emailed my own MP (Tory) but have not received a single thing.

How can labour appear transparent of that complaints for thing has no follow up? I saw loads of people on here and twitter saying they'd done similar and yet still not a peep from the party.