sarah ditum on Posie parker

[narcymum]

Just saw a tweet where she calls PP a 'poundshop marine le Pen'
WTF! why are women who are supposedly in this fight together actively trying to sabotage another woman's activism?
Can we not move away from this schoolyard shit?

Here’s my first hit on the Google search ‘Posie Parker Black Lives Matter Speakers Corner’

www.uncancelled.co.uk/tie-world/gender/standing-for-women-speakers-corner-event-disrupted-by-blm-protesters/

extract: ‘With the police helicopter buzzing overhead, burly male BLM activists abandoned their own march and surrounded the women’s group, shouting abuse: “Terf, terf, terf!”, waving trans placards, and using megaphones to drown out the women speaking. Within minutes there was a heavy police presence as the officers and BLM’s own stewards tried to move them on.

Throughout the confrontation, Kellie-Jay Keen stood on a small step ladder and defied the abusive mob. There could not have been a greater contrast between the peaceful messages of the Muslim rally to what was stood before us. A film published on Facebook shows the full 15-minute standoff.

Watching with bemusement from the side-lines was a small group of Algerian men, waiting for their chance to speak. “We come here every Sunday,” one said. “It’s usually very quiet here!”

You can watch the “Standing for Women” Speakers’ Corner, August 30, 2020, here on YouTube.’

here are the two video links that haven’t come over with my copy/paste

Facebook: fb.watch/fKVemcmvql/

YouTube: m.youtube.com/watch?v=kR0XtWqOY0E&feature=youtu.be

What shall we educate ourselves on next, fellow wimms of Mumsnet?

Yes, I dislike (not hate) a womens rights activist that is blatantly collaborating with racists and anti-abortionists among other problematic behaviours. I think most ethical feminists would feel the same way tbh.

Do you think the Labour feminists that do this (regularly) do it as a punishment for their own failure to have any influence? A few were invited to give evidence to the government and have been listened to quite successfully, but their own party still allows them to be kicked about by members like the baby shouter. They seem to need to kick Posie about periodically in response like some weird stress relief.

If you watch all the videos published by everyone who was there, you’ll see what happened does not match this florid and inflammatory description…

Done!

can I have my special gold star for being a good little feminist and going off educating myself as directed?

even though what I found contradicts your version?

Discovereads is a Putin mole who works in Patrick Harvey''s basement where he lives off mushrooms and foxes which are killed by men in kimonos weekly to ensure a fresh supply.

You want evidence? Just search the Internet. I am not doing your labour for you.

You aren’t done if all you did was look at one source and read only the caption to one video (that doesn’t even match what happens in that video…I know cause I’ve actually watched every second of it plus all the other videos from then)

I thought it was that one, but wanted to check since you framed it in a way that suggested she had beef with BLM. Which seemed in opposition to what I had seen with my eyes.

The further detail is interesting although it doesn't corroborate your statement earlier.

Firmly in Posie's corner on that one.

Er, yes it does. I stated she harassed BLM protesters. And she did.

Discovereads does eat foxes. I stated he eats foxes. And he does.

🤣

Oh! So I was right the FIRST time when I said that if you wanted us to believe YOUR version of events YOU should supply links because the ones we will find ourselves won’t say what you claim they say?

bit of a self own, there, eh?

I linked to two videos. If you want us to watch a third one (or more) go fetch a link.

Whats pathetic is you thinking I’m your personal search engine. It’s out there. Go look it up. It is how adults behave, you’re an adult, so use your adulting research skills and stop being a baby wanting to be spoon fed.

why aren’t you holding yourself to the same standards you are attempting to impose on us? I spoon fed the thread an article and two videos.
They contradict your assertions.

If you want us to watch a video that portrays the events as you claim they unfolded, go find it your goddamn self and bring it here.

Like I did.

No, apparently you now need to watch all the videos, as the evidence you found isn’t the right sort.

I’ve just realised that this is the dipstick who called soneone homophobic for objecting to paedophiles hiding under the “+” in the ever growing list of letters and symbols.

S/he has issues.

I was on the FWR thread at the time (different user name)

No need to rewatch the videos because I haven’t forgotten how it played out back in 2020.

Here’s a refresher, seeing as you are seemingly keenly advocating for the reviewing of old evidence:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3972315-Posie-Parker-at-Speakers-Corner-earlier-today

Watched it, but are completely unable to provide the links that’s I’ll be sitting in your browser history.

Is there a single one of you who isn’t this rubbish?

I didnt ask you to post shit. I certainly didn’t say post videos or GTFO
like you lot are. I’m not imposing any standards.

But hey, if you’re so idiotic as to only watch one video (which I don’t think you’ve even watched otherwise you would not have cut and pasted the mismatching caption), that’s not my problem.

You’re the one associating with PP and defending the indefensible. The egg will be on your face in the end. At least you can’t say you weren’t warned about PP.

I clear my browser history regularly. They’re not sitting there. I’m familiar with PP as heard of her a few years ago. I initially posted from memory, and guess what other posters have also agreed with me because they know I’m telling the truth about what she has said and done.

Associating!

I want to drop this video in of PP talking with Magdalen Berns in 2018.

PP starting talking online around this time. She isn't media trained, so she isn't always careful about saying something that can be taken out of context or used to criticise her later. The oft quoted call for men to police women's bathrooms in the US was not serious when you listen to it in the context of the whole you tube piece. She is often miscontextualised.

Honestly, what I've seen from her is an initial standing up for women's right to use our words and our spaces. She expresses anger and incredulity at having to do that. She voices the feelings of many women which is obvious by the following she has picked up. And right now, having done that, I suspect she feels a responsibility to not step off the platform she built to shout out for the rights of women and children.

No-one who has followed her journey can really doubt her committment to women and children. I suspect Sarah Ditum has not. Therefore to make the comment she did is, I suspect, both mis/underinformed, lacking context and frankly just bitchy.

The house IS on fire. Yet another story from my community today about ROGD. We could do without the infighting to be honest.

That’s not what the poster said, and they were being homophobic.

You are ridiculous Discovereads.

I will think of you as a furry little mole chewing away on a bit of fox old Kimono threw down the basement stairs for you. Waiting for the revolution.

No, you are lying. They said that people were “riding on the coat tails” of the LGB community to push a pro-paedophile agenda. The post is still up, so your lie is clear.

Maybe I am being unfair here, maybe you genuinely aren’t able to understand that saying bad actors are hijacking LGB activism isn’t homophobic.

Given the pisspoor performance you are showing on here that’s maybe a better assumption than dishonesty.

@JoodyBlue
The oft quoted call for men to police women's bathrooms in the US was not serious

Sounded serious to me and many others hence the backlash and her deleting the initial video she said it in (that I saw). So what you’ve posted is her weak attempt to pretend after the backlash and deletion, hah hah I was only joking!

Baroness Nicholson has invited Sarah D to tea...

No @Discovereads it wasn't serious. As I have said above, it was probably misjudged because it could have been taken out of context and used to accuse her of vigilantism. It wasn't what she said, there was nuance in her body language and tone of voice that indicated that she wasn't serious. It was misjudged sure. That's why she took it down no doubt. I don't see her backtracking on anything she stands for despite criticism. So if she felt the video presented her view, it would surely still be up.