Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 9

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Allison Bailey - claimant

Witnesses for the claimant:

Nic Williams - Fair Play for Women
A Woman's Place
FiLiA
Kate Harris - LGB Alliance

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC
Kirrin Medcalfe - head of trans inclusion Stonewall
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC and in charge of writing report on AB/complaints
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC

Current Witness - Charlie Tennant - Clerk at GCC

To come

Luke Harvey - Clerk at GCC
Louise Hooper - Clerk at GCC
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge

Yes. He's a lay member on the employee expertise side. He's a trade union man.

How many men will put their hand up to participating in "office gossip"?

MR is a lay panel member - assisting EJ

Clerks don't gossip? Well, that's honest.

This sounds like an amazing place to work - no gossip and every one is too busy to worry about anything other than the work they have right in front of them. And no one is on Twitter.

going back to Tennent - don't you think it's interesting that a working class man is so free, so able to say "I didn't read emails about diversity" and even "I probably agreed more with Bailey than the other side". I mean can you imagine a woman getting away with that? Still less a professional woman? Can you imagine what would happen to Judy Khan if she said informally, let alone in a witness statement, words to the effect of "Oh I never bother with any of that stuff"?

Wish he'd said oh no we don't gossip. We just compare lip balms.

Yes all his questions are excellent

Harvey says he understood from the email chain that it was "against her beliefs" (her being Michelle brewer's)

Did anyone else catch that? Slip of the tongue I think.

He then amended it to "these were her view" (her being AB).

Yes he is, along with Zofia.

How could he not know Allison's views? It must have been the talk of the Chambers surely?

And I do not for one second believe there's no office gossips amongst the clarks.

@dworky no, quite a few of the clerks at GCC are female
www.gardencourtchambers.co.uk/clerks-and-staff

In all the offices I worked in, the gossip was rife.

I don't buy his answer - just football.

Gap on the CV!

LuHa talks as though he still works at GCC, but he's not listed as a clerk

His witness statement said he left last year, to become a self-employed graphic designer. I was wondering about that because it sounds like such a very risky career move.

@IdisagreeMrHochhauser sorry! Didn't know.

JR is being much more gentle. This is her talking to her little brother voice.

@IDidntKnowItWasAParty

Thank you

@lougle there was some "serious" matter a few days ago on Facebook. We're not meant to speculate on who the panel are as a result. No idea what the rules are but rest assured that the Stonewall legal team will get a message to the judge if any of us get it wrong.

5 min break LouHoo Ms Hooper up next

David Bellamy back to fiddle with the computer set up.

😂