Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 8

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Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

My feeling was that if she can very quickly grasp the implications and relevance of everything BC is asking about, it's more of a good sign than otherwise

She does seem very on the ball. I am impressed!

@SenselessUbiquity I think this is very insightful. -I think there is also the impact of the some of getting it so wrong on anti-semitism. - They did not see it under their nose so are doubly worried that they might miss transphobia as well. But again its because they can't be bothered to work out what the real issues are.

So you can behave as badly as you like on Twitter, as long as no one complains about it.

Mum, Mum, he said, he did. Sort it out Mum.

So has Ebenezer Good, Pyjama!

Hochhauser interrupting again

Sorry to be a bit thick, but I'm not sure what you mean by that.

When they were both Madaming the judge it sounded like brothers fighting 😂

@SenselessUbiquity

The insights in your comment are exactly why men think 'feminists brought this all on themselves'. Warrants a separate discussion i think.

Ebenezer Good has joined along with David Bellamy!

So at the time, JK was aware of the strong views, despite JK's protestations that she didn't know anything about the subject.

Everyone saying they didn't read the tweets directed at Allison, in my view is nonsense. It's impossible for them not to have read them amongst the "twitter storm" . Trouble is they cant possibly admit to seeing them because to do so and then ignore the violent threats and misogynistic abuse against her is absolutely shameful.

I keep reading JK as JKR!

JK basically saying she meant 'watch your tone' to Allison and would say it to anyone saying e.g. something that goes against what the crime team represent (?! I paraphrase)

Just checked and they are indeed in the guest list - I was being cheeky about the IT helper for Khan.

JK getting stroppy. Possible juice break time.

Ooh! Nice rebuttal she can't argue with, go Ben!

So basically this witness knows nothing, can't remember anything, is too busy and doesn't care anyway.

EJ is sharp as a tack isn't she?

Excellent summary @chilling19

The killer question

BC: Sorry to speak over you, Ms Khan, but I do need an answer to my question on this occasion

Ouch

Answer the question - go BC

Add to the list 'some one else's fault'