Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 3

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.
You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.

On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

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Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, barrister for SW
RW = Robin White assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Fucking 'ell what a circus. Are we going to see the dog in shot as well?

Oh this is hilarious.

Assuming ND. As an ND person myself, I am not taking the piss, but this is ridiculous.

I just laughed out loud!

His mum, the ESP and his dog! 😂

I do hope we can see the dog.

This is a farce.

Oh please let the dog be in the shot.

They should have said the mum was there as well. And the dog. Not looking good.

I can’t watch the proceedings this week but am following along with thanks for the commentary. Would love to say something about the emotional support person but perhaps best…..not.

I do hope it’s a Labrador

could be there.

EJ: yes and we would be able to see the support person in those circumstances.
IO: We need to fit them all in
EJ: all of them?
IO: yes KM, his mother, his support person and his support dog
BC: this is all new information

I am coming all daily mail about this :)

Also we need the dog's name

KM, his mother, his support person and his support dog

I just read this and came here to check whether I was hallucinating. Fuck me.

KM isn’t on trial. KM is (should be) just giving factual evidence. Ok, that isn’t like going to the spa for a day but an ‘emotional support person’ seems ridiculously over the top.

They are deliberately making it a bloody farce...but we all see you and your ridiculous time-wasting tactics.

EJ Goodman really does have the patience of a saint.

How long does it take to move the two chairs that the support people are sitting on so that they are in camera shot?
And why was the presence of support people not dealt with in advance of Mr Medcalg giving evidence?

I think it is fine to have a support person if you need it, but not your mum and dog too, that is taking the piss.

How on earth do these people function at all? And this is NOT a dig at ND folks, it's a dig at adults who don't appear to be able to adult.

Absolutely ridiculous! Why is the judge facillitating it, would never be allowed in a courtroom.

is the support person to support the mother and the dog to support the support person?

As a ND person I’d just like to say this is ridiculous.

This bit definitely is going in the film.

Just so the comedy of that exchange is preserved:

twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1523984431698128903

Where’s the dog? Disappointing

BC points out that no one had mentioned this in advance and asks that the support person be visible throughout. This will apparently cause major rearrangement issues, because it turns out that it's not just one emotional support person, it's KM's mum, his friend and a support dog. IO says that if the tribunal were meeting in a courtroom KM would have supporters present. JG points out that everyone would be able to see them.

I find myself wondering whether anyone from Private Eye is watching. Adjournment while seating arrangements are changed.

Kirrin Medcalf is the Head of Trans Inclusion at Stonewall from what I can see.

This is making them look like fools

The gigantic RMW, the emotional support dog... I really feel for the calm, professional AB in this scenario