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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 3

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ickky · 08/05/2022 20:09

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.
You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.

On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, barrister for SW
RW = Robin White assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

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DifficultBloodyWoman · 10/05/2022 12:22

Please, please let the journalists describe this farce in the newspapers tomorrow!

nauticant · 10/05/2022 12:22

The emotional support person has abandoned the scene!

SelfPortraitWithFoxInSmokingJacket · 10/05/2022 12:22

Anyone else reminded of this poem? 😀

www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/91397/the-taxis

CatsOperatingInGangs · 10/05/2022 12:23

The EJ speaks for us all re the dog

dworky · 10/05/2022 12:23

They are totally taking the piss. Security camera shots while everyone else is full face while they're all sitting in front of laptops with webcams.

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 10/05/2022 12:23

The judge has just said that she's disappointed not to see the dog.

Baystard · 10/05/2022 12:23

This would be hilarious if it wasn't so serious.

Pyjamagame · 10/05/2022 12:24

Ah BC, I want to be party to the discussion around this circus.

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 10/05/2022 12:24

Ben is requesting a private hearing to understand the reasons why this is necessary.

womaniswomaniswoman · 10/05/2022 12:24

I am actually LOLing at

'KM, his mother, his support person and his support dog'

Oh my oh my.

PrelateChuckles · 10/05/2022 12:24

I really want to see the dog tbh
A bit of a nice distraction!

nauticant · 10/05/2022 12:24

BC so exasperated by this nonsense he's requested private hearing to sort out the mess. EJ resists this.

SelfPortraitWithFoxInSmokingJacket · 10/05/2022 12:25

Someone now washing up in the background...

ickky · 10/05/2022 12:26

Wimbunds · 10/05/2022 12:22

The gigantic RMW, the emotional support dog... I really feel for the calm, professional AB in this scenario

you forgot the incredible shrinking woman IO.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/05/2022 12:26

I wonder if the press will mention this.

oviraptor21 · 10/05/2022 12:26

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 10/05/2022 12:21

This bit definitely is going in the film.

😂

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 10/05/2022 12:26

I think Ben is actually trying to be fair here. He wants to know whether he needs to adjust his questioning to support the witness.

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 10/05/2022 12:27

He's definitely ND.

BIWI · 10/05/2022 12:28

I thought the bit about the dog was a joke! Actually, it is a joke ...

Ameanstreakamilewide · 10/05/2022 12:29

Allison ain't laughing, bless her...

DialSquare · 10/05/2022 12:29

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 10/05/2022 12:21

This bit definitely is going in the film.

I'm reminded of this film.

Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 3
Redshoeblueshoe · 10/05/2022 12:29

Just when you think things can't get any more ridiculous

GrimDamnFanjo · 10/05/2022 12:30

nauticant · 10/05/2022 12:21

Just so the comedy of that exchange is preserved:

twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1523984431698128903

Absolute gold...

IO: We need to fit them all in
EJ: all of them?
IO: yes KM, his mother, his support person and his support dog
BC: this is all new information

Pluvia · 10/05/2022 12:30

RMW is huge!

nauticant · 10/05/2022 12:33

I don't think I'm mistaken but when the room was rearranged I believe that the emotional support person left. The third person is the room now is KM's "solicitor/IT coordinator". Unless I'm mistaken, the ESP left and that may have been because they didn't want to be seen by the observers.

There's also the dog. Whose pronouns are currently unclear.

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