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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 3

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ickky · 08/05/2022 20:09

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.
You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.

On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, barrister for SW
RW = Robin White assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

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JulesRimetStillGleaming · 10/05/2022 12:04

Why didn't they say all this before the break and use the break to rearrange the room?

Ameanstreakamilewide · 10/05/2022 12:06

I compare it to a Ponzi scheme - which was an analogy that was first posted here originally. I can't remember who it was, unfortunately.

It was just so pithy and clever and cut right to the heart of the matter, because what you are purchasing and encouraging others to do is essentially worthless.

ickky · 10/05/2022 12:10

Why is it taking so long to swap over? Just get up and go, someone else sits down, it's not difficult or time consuming. They are just wasting time AGAIN.

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 10/05/2022 12:13

Would this continual nonsense fly, where you work, ickky, cos i know it would go down like a lead balloon in my office??

tabbycatstripy · 10/05/2022 12:13

KM has an emotional support person. I am very surprised by this.

nauticant · 10/05/2022 12:13

KM has an emotional support person who is in the room with him but that person won't be participating in any way.

KM is both a "he/him" and a "they/them".

NecessaryScene · 10/05/2022 12:13

Why is it taking so long to swap over? Just get up and go, someone else sits down, it's not difficult or time consuming. They are just wasting time AGAIN.

I kind of wish Charles Dickens was still around to write about some of these characters and their shenanigans. I think he'd nail them beautifully.

Pluvia · 10/05/2022 12:13

Kirrin Medcalf has a support person in the room.

JG: Technical support, medical support?
IO: Emotional support

Ameanstreakamilewide · 10/05/2022 12:13

You could knock me down with a feather!

Pyjamagame · 10/05/2022 12:14

Delicate flower in contrast to Allison's bravery.

nauticant · 10/05/2022 12:15

BC isn't impressed by the random appearance of the emotional support person. He wants an explanation.

At least it's becoming clear why the changeover of witnesses was time-consuming.

ickky · 10/05/2022 12:15

BC questioning KM need for an emotional support person in the room.

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chilling19 · 10/05/2022 12:15

Everyone could say they want an emotional support person! Including Allison.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 10/05/2022 12:15

Pathetic...

nauticant · 10/05/2022 12:16

Another break requested to rearrange the room. EJ unimpressed.

tabbycatstripy · 10/05/2022 12:16

I wonder who it is. This is like Scooby Doo.

Pyjamagame · 10/05/2022 12:16

Manage that, but not shifting yourself and Robin around. Grrr.

Signalbox · 10/05/2022 12:17

*support people

nauticant · 10/05/2022 12:17

IO now talking about a potential room change. There are two people with KM. What a pantomime.

ickky · 10/05/2022 12:17

So KM has 2 other people in the room. ffs

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Signalbox · 10/05/2022 12:17

😆

CatsOperatingInGangs · 10/05/2022 12:17

Two support people! And a dog. Goodness me

tabbycatstripy · 10/05/2022 12:18

There's a dog as well.

ickky · 10/05/2022 12:18

and a dog 😂

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nauticant · 10/05/2022 12:18

Also a support dog.

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